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Post by brandon on Apr 15, 2020 7:40:11 GMT -6
We have talked about the ASUN/UAC split and it seemed like the more we talked, the more muddy it got.
What everyone kinda agrees on is that it seems unlikely, for more than 1 reason.
So, if it does not happen, what happens?
There has been one person on here from time to time that is adamant the the ASUN will start football. I'm starting to agree with him. So much so, that during this time of quarantine, I got to have a nice conversation on the phone with Ted Gumbart.
First of all, he seems pretty confident that the UAC thing will get done. He still wouldnt tell who would be in it.
So I asked him, "If it was to be shot down, would the ASUN expand to add football? He said "More than likely."
"Football is the biggest reason we are restricted on who we can invite. There have been several FCS schools that have contacted the ASUN about joining the conference since UNA has joined and the ASUN Big South deal happened. It really made the conference CEOs step back and see that maybe the ASUN could have a football future. The problem with the other schools that have shown interest, they dont see it as ideal to travel to New Jersey and the Carolinas, that's why the UAC was created. But if the ASUN can feasibly expand by letting those in, and still have good revenue sharing with revenue growth, then yes, the ASUN will expand to 16-18 and have FCS football."
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Post by northalaspectator on Apr 16, 2020 22:14:32 GMT -6
I believe now that the UAC will happen because of the effect the current virus has had on sports.
If it doesn’t and The ASUN starts football besides Kennesaw State and North Alabama there will only be a need for 4 additional schools to be a qualified AQ football Conference. I see Florida A&M, Alabama A&M, Alabama State, UT-Chattanooga.
Eventually West Florida and Valdosta State moving up.
I know right now that Valdosta State is against it, but I think when their AD retires there might be a push to move up. Herb is against it, but I believe he might retire in 3 or 4 years. He has been there 28 years as AD and he is around the age of 62 or 63.
A lot will depends on their new AD. If they don’t Valdosta State will be left behind 20 or 25 years like North Alabama was.
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Post by brandon on Apr 17, 2020 3:44:02 GMT -6
I believe now that the UAC will happen because of the effect the current virus has had on sports. If it doesn’t and The ASUN starts football besides Kennesaw State and North Alabama there will only be a need for 4 additional schools to be a qualified AQ football Conference. I see Florida A&M, Alabama A&M, Alabama State, UT-Chattanooga. Eventually West Florida and Valdosta State moving up. I know right now that Valdosta State is against it, but I think when their AD retires there might be a push to move up. Herb is against it, but I believe he might retire in 3 or 4 years. He has been there 28 years as AD and he is around the age of 62 or 63. A lot will depends on their new AD. If they don’t Valdosta State will be left behind 20 or 25 years like North Alabama was. I hope the UAC happens... just making sure my stance is known... I just dont know if A&M and Alabama State would be on board with joining. May Florida A&M? Dont know their stance on the MEAC. But I dont see JSU not joining, especially if UNA, KSU and Chattanooga is in. And also with Chattanooga in, I dont see why ETSU would stay in the SoCon without their biggest rival (Chattanooga). So, at that point you have 5, if Florida A&M does join, that would make 6, the minimum for a AQ spot. Then add West Florida and hopefully Valdosta State. But I think it will be one more OVC school before either of those. Maybe Tenn Tech, Austin Peay or Tennessee State. If the UAC thing dont happen, and the ASUN adds more for football, hopefully it helps strengthen basketball as well. And maybe it would cause Stetson to add scholarship football instead of traveling the whole country for conference games, especially after this virus deal. |
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Post by lions09 on Apr 17, 2020 5:50:55 GMT -6
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Post by unafied on Apr 17, 2020 11:19:42 GMT -6
Obviously if we could all go back and keep the pandemic from happening, we would. BUT... if there were ever a time to do some much-needed restructuring of the NCAA, now’s the time.
I really wish conferences would be required to stick to a geographic footprint. Maybe all states have to be contiguous or something. It’s just ridiculous for these schools to be losing serious money flying players in every sport thousands of miles, when there are schools so much closer to home. If anything gives me hope the UAC will actually happen, it’s that. I’m sure we could save a lot of money in the long run having our teams bus to Chattanooga, Jacksonville, etc., instead of flying to Newark, New Jersey or Deland, Florida (no offense to NJIT and Stetson).
I wonder if any serious conversations will happen about dividing up football into three classes.
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Post by brandon on Apr 17, 2020 12:06:22 GMT -6
Obviously if we could all go back and keep the pandemic from happening, we would. BUT... if there were ever a time to do some much-needed restructuring of the NCAA, now’s the time. I really wish conferences would be required to stick to a geographic footprint. Maybe all states have to be contiguous or something. It’s just ridiculous for these schools to be losing serious money flying players in every sport thousands of miles, when there are schools so much closer to home. If anything gives me hope the UAC will actually happen, it’s that. I’m sure we could save a lot of money in the long run having our teams bus to Chattanooga, Jacksonville, etc., instead of flying to Newark, New Jersey or Deland, Florida (no offense to NJIT and Stetson). I wonder if any serious conversations will happen about dividing up football into three classes. Football is basically in 3 classes 1-FBS 2-FCS 3-pioneer league, Ivy League...(non scholarship) I dont think they should separate P5 and G5. I do, however think, most of the schools in the G5 should drop to FCS. And have smaller G5 conferences. Outside of New Jersey, I like the ASUN footprint. I dont see traveling to Florida as a bad thing. It's worth it money in recruiting. But I dont see why UNA, JSU and Samford are in 3 separate conferences. I can see Samford, just because of the private thing. But UNA and JSU, no. And schools close to them geographically, Chattanooga, KSU, Tenn Tech, ETSU... shouldn't be a problem to bring together. |
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Post by brandon on Jun 1, 2020 13:52:14 GMT -6
I'm hearing that FAMU is planning to join the SWAC....
You have to figure Bethune Cookman will do the same....
Kinda falling in place
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Post by unafied on Jun 2, 2020 10:42:40 GMT -6
I'm hearing that FAMU is planning to join the SWAC.... You have to figure Bethune Cookman will do the same.... Kinda falling in place So what do you think happens with the other two MEAC south division teams - NCCU and South Carolina State? Will they be offered a spot in the Big South? That makes more sense for them than staying in the MEAC. The MEAC could be in danger of folding if that were to happen, since they'd only be left with six members. What happens to those schools? And what does the SWAC do? Does it agree to let its teams compete in the FCS playoffs at that point, since there would be no Celebration Bowl? So many questions. |
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Post by brandon on Jun 2, 2020 10:55:10 GMT -6
I'm hearing that FAMU is planning to join the SWAC.... You have to figure Bethune Cookman will do the same.... Kinda falling in place So what do you think happens with the other two MEAC south division teams - NCCU and South Carolina State? Will they be offered a spot in the Big South? That makes more sense for them than staying in the MEAC. The MEAC could be in danger of folding if that were to happen, since they'd only be left with six members. What happens to those schools? And what does the SWAC do? Does it agree to let its teams compete in the FCS playoffs at that point, since there would be no Celebration Bowl? So many questions. I figure the SWAC will invite one more. The Big South get a couple. The rest either find a suitable D1 conference or drop to D2. The SWAC championship game will by default, become the HBCU national championship. |
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Post by brandon on Jun 15, 2020 15:19:15 GMT -6
I am hearing there are things happening within the ASUN about the possibility of still expanding and possibly sponsoring football...
No real details yet...
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Post by northalaspectator on Jun 15, 2020 16:33:54 GMT -6
I am hearing there are things happening within the ASUN about the possibility of still expanding and possibly sponsoring football... No real details yet... I don’t see it before 2026 unless they can pick up possible two of the Southland teams. Then would Stetson approved of them being in the conference. |
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Post by brandon on Jun 15, 2020 16:38:19 GMT -6
I am hearing there are things happening within the ASUN about the possibility of still expanding and possibly sponsoring football... No real details yet... I don’t see it before 2026 unless they can pick up possible two of the Southland teams. Then would Stetson approved of them being in the conference. Why would Stetson have any issues? |
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Post by northalaspectator on Jun 16, 2020 15:54:59 GMT -6
I don’t see it before 2026 unless they can pick up possible two of the Southland teams. Then would Stetson approved of them being in the conference. Why would Stetson have any issues? I hope not, but from past news media reports from 2010-2015 in regards to the sharing of the basketball revenue. Yes during that time they accepted Northern Kentucky, NJIT, and North Alabama. I’m sure they still have some of the same thoughts. I’m sure it would now be hard to finds some of those news articles now. |
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Post by northalaspectator on Jun 16, 2020 16:11:54 GMT -6
I could see starting next season possible besides Kennesaw State, Jax State, South Carolina State, Bethune. But where is the other two. Also unless there were major problems in the Southland why would the closest School in Louisiana leave that conference when they would on the average increase their mileage over 700 miles per sport. Then why would Jax. state leave the OVC and loose their possibility of an automatic berth for a few seasons.
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Post by unalions on Jun 21, 2020 11:35:54 GMT -6
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