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Post by unalions on Apr 28, 2023 13:42:48 GMT -6
Some folks are saying the NCAA didn't want to set precedent for allowing it (approving the waiver) during a moratorium to show some type of authority on curbing it in the future if, say, P5's wanted to all of a sudden start forming football-only mega-conferences, etc.
We'll see if they extend it or let it expire in a month and approve the UAC at the next meeting.
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Post by brandon on Apr 28, 2023 15:07:08 GMT -6
Whole thing is weird? I imagine the administration, coaches and players would prefer that all sports compete in one conference. Fans too. It's a problem that exists because of the concentrated amount of D1 schools (FCS in general)in a particular area. If certain other conferences would do the logical thing, it wouldn't be a problem. It basically stems back to the OVC (in our case) denied UNA and NKU back in 2011. That pissed a lot of schools off, and their lack of wanting football as a major conference sport. Instead, they chose a school that already had the writing on the wall about going to a "better" conference in Belmont. The SoCon has an, I'm too good for you, arrogance and thinks just because they raise the exit fees to an unreasonable price, they are safe. So in some schools that may have approached the SoCon before, now they will not. They are basically getting away from what made them great. The ASUN could have been the answer, but Texas and Oklahoma decided they want to get beat on a weekly basis and set off the chain reaction. I like the idea of a football only conference, football is a different animal and I think it should be treated differently in terms of conferences myself. I say, all football schools should be in a football only conference, and if a certain school wants to be FBS, and can fund it, let them. Why should a group of other schools or a committee decide what another school does?
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Post by ekusteve on Apr 28, 2023 15:09:19 GMT -6
Whole thing is weird? I imagine the administration, coaches and players would prefer that all sports compete in one conference. Fans too. I know EKU is very pleased with the current arrangement. ASUN football would have been nice, but creating this structure for football while keeping the Olympic sports in the ASUN is the next best thing.
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Post by unalions on Apr 28, 2023 17:31:27 GMT -6
I posted this on CSNbbs Realignment board when responding to Brandon on EKUSteve’s thread about the UAC branding. I think them extending the moratorium could become very interesting. I could see the UAC operating as is if the AQ for FCS is continued to be granted to the alliance as long as it remains at the minimum 6 FCS teams. Since I'm bored during the football offseason, I'll offer this bit of potential chaos to ponder. Where it could become "creative" is if the league wanted to mimic the MVC of the 80s and be a hybrid FBS/FCS league with a few of the programs reclassifying technically as FBS independents. Maybe EKU, SFA, or whoever is on that "more ready than the rest" list. The FBS teams can count one FCS win towards bowl eligibility but could play several as long as the bulk of their schedule is FBS. Although, they would need five home FBS games to be bowl eligible which might be tough unless four or more UAC teams were FBS. Who knows, maybe such an agreement would be interesting to other schools that find such a set-up attractive. From an article this past December: Additionally, there is the possibility the teams try to become FBS independents and reform as a single conference at the FBS level but that requires the NCAA to allow these teams to become an FBS team without a conference as it did with Liberty. As stated before, it’s difficult to get a read on what the NCAA will or will not provide a waiver for. Then again, the article cites a source as saying “We feel very confident in talking to NCAA officials that they’d support this,” a source said. “There’s no grounds for them to stand on to deny it.” Take that as you may.sportsenthusiasts.net/2022/12/11/asun-and-wac-intend-to-join-fbs-in-a-potentially-realignment-breaking-move/
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Post by brandon on May 4, 2023 7:30:00 GMT -6
If I find the link I will post...
I read an article talking about the Texas schools in the UAC and if they are ready to make the jump to FBS.
Basically they compared the Texas schools with SHSU and interview a couple of coach's from a couple of Texas schools and it was kinda funny what they said.
One said that none, not even Tarleton is close to ready for FBS. He said Sam Houston ain't ready, and non of us are as far along as Sam Houston.
They Basically said don't expect anybody to make the jump any time soon.
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Post by brandon on May 4, 2023 7:37:52 GMT -6
My point is, after that interview and the few I have listened to with various ADs and Oliver Luck, I think this group has came together to stick together after the CUSA thing.
I'll try to find a podcast I listened to that had an interview of Tarleton AD. Even he said this group is committed to making this work, and are planning on having a strick and steep exit fee. Meaning, not only will you pay the WAC and ASUN exit fees, you will pay a UAC exit fee.
Anyway, can't wait to find out everything about the UAC and get this thing going.
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Post by unalions on May 12, 2023 16:47:34 GMT -6
Interesting! But, Matt Brown disagrees.
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Post by brandon on May 12, 2023 19:50:16 GMT -6
Interesting! But, Matt Brown disagrees. I've admittedly gave up on that too... but things seem to be happening. It would be nice to get at least one if not both. If only one, hopefully SEMO will make up their mind..
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Post by brandon on May 12, 2023 19:53:00 GMT -6
And as much as I like Brown, even subscribe to him, he is wrong just like myself. He just does what I do on a bigger scale, all it is, is asking questions.
In my experience, sometimes schools will just lie or avoid the question to keep the spotlight off while they make a decision.
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Post by unafied on May 13, 2023 5:18:43 GMT -6
The GSC seems to be on the brink of a disaster. Aren’t they down to 6 teams? There’s no doubt that the trio of VSU/UWG/UWF all at least have *some* interest in moving up. But it seems like it’s a standoff right now. Each school waiting to see what the others do.
It’s sad to think about Delta and UWA in a situation where those other 3 leave. They’ll either be stuck playing “conference” games way too far away, or be forced to do something like dropping to D3. I don’t think either would ever be able to afford a D1 move.
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Post by mtc13 on May 14, 2023 8:29:38 GMT -6
The GSC seems to be on the brink of a disaster. Aren’t they down to 6 teams? There’s no doubt that the trio of VSU/UWG/UWF all at least have *some* interest in moving up. But it seems like it’s a standoff right now. Each school waiting to see what the others do. It’s sad to think about Delta and UWA in a situation where those other 3 leave. They’ll either be stuck playing “conference” games way too far away, or be forced to do something like dropping to D3. I don’t think either would ever be able to afford a D1 move. Same with Shorter and Mississippi College
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Post by unalions on May 14, 2023 11:34:18 GMT -6
The GSC seems to be on the brink of a disaster. Aren’t they down to 6 teams? There’s no doubt that the trio of VSU/UWG/UWF all at least have *some* interest in moving up. But it seems like it’s a standoff right now. Each school waiting to see what the others do. It’s sad to think about Delta and UWA in a situation where those other 3 leave. They’ll either be stuck playing “conference” games way too far away, or be forced to do something like dropping to D3. I don’t think either would ever be able to afford a D1 move. Same with Shorter and Mississippi College Shorter is moving to the Conference Carolinas for all sports. North Greenville, too. All the GSC teams that are left could join them as affiliates for football.
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Post by unafied on May 14, 2023 19:08:03 GMT -6
Same with Shorter and Mississippi College Shorter is moving to the Conference Carolinas for all sports. North Greenville, too. All the GSC teams that are left could join them as affiliates for football. Yeah that idea was on my mind when I said they’d be left playing long distance “conference games”. I feel for them, because those couple of years of UNA playing Big South schools were the worst for me as a fan, interest-wise. The Carolinas just feel too far away. Strangely, I never even got that feeling with the Arkansas schools in the GSC, but the thought of playing a Big South schedule long-term just had zero appeal for me. I hope for the GSC’s sake they can stay together in some form indefinitely. Just wouldn’t be right to see it die.
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Post by unalions on Jun 7, 2023 15:42:45 GMT -6
I'm eager for the UAC to release a logo. It's gotta be better than this.
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Post by brandon on Jun 18, 2023 10:55:48 GMT -6
Had an interesting conversation last night.
Happy fathers day also...
From an APSU guy I've became friends with,
He is being told from APSU officials that the ASUN is looking at 3 schools to replace Liberty, JSU, and KSU. 2 with football and 1 non football. He also is hearing the WAC is pushing another's school to start football. He said the UAC thinks it will be better for the future to have divisions (ASUN side and WAC side) with a set amount of cross over games to help travel even more. So in order to do that, both sides need 6 schools each.
He also heard that the UAC schools are discussing a separate exit fee, meaning not only would you pay a WAC or ASUN exit fee, but also a UAC exit fee.
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