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Post by unafied on Nov 28, 2023 8:52:40 GMT -6
Honestly, I'm glad we aren't a part of that... Football that far is one thing, but all sports? The conference isn't making the kind of money for the schools to justify that imo. If the whole system comes crashing down like many think it eventually will, I think having football in their own conferences separate from the Olympic sports would be the first step to trimming the budgets. So you could say the UAC/ASUN is already ahead of the curve in that regard. Long-term, I have no idea what the ultimate answer is. When SEC and B1G schools are making hundreds of millions of dollars, upsets over them come playoff time will be few and far between. There probably needs to another set of playoffs that pull in the current G5 schools and FCS schools that want to spend enough to compete. But when you see how every former FCS school that moves up suddenly becomes so "holier than thou" toward their former friends... can you really see them agreeing to that? |
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Post by ekusteve on Nov 28, 2023 9:27:16 GMT -6
FWIW, I saw where Matt Brown said he'd be very surprised if CUSA doesn't add UMass. They'll be rivaling the B1G as far as how much ground the conference covers. Massachusetts to southern New Mexico. Jeez. A UMASS poster on the CUSA board is saying he got told over the weekend UMASS is no on CUSA, Yes on the MAC in 1-3 years. But who knows for sure. |
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Post by unalions on Dec 5, 2023 10:45:33 GMT -6
The P5 split is upon us. Well, being proposed at least.
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Post by tuna85 on Dec 5, 2023 16:00:29 GMT -6
I'm beginning to think we will see a power 2 split with the remainder, who fail to align, having to come up with a new subdivision. No telling how it will all finally shake out. Of note, to me, is if a 12 team playoff were held today, all of the teams would be SEC/or soon to be, Big 10/or soon to be, Florida State (who is basically being given notice to get on board like NOW), and a random bone thrown out with no though to strength of schedule (Liberty 133 out of 133 and tells you all you need to know about the G5/6/7 whatever impact on things).
I think it would be best for the health of the sport, if the Power 2 would move on to their money grab. The remainder can try to come up with a better brand of football that respects the game and has a modicum of integrity.
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Post by brandon on Jan 29, 2024 10:29:28 GMT -6
I'm hearing chatter that West Florida may be back at the top of the ASUN expansion list...
I'm wondering if West Georgia has forced their hand?
Also, hearing they are about to start renovation of the football stadium and baseball stadium.
Really for football, they just need some ascetic renovation, the home side is all chair back. Maybe some brick to make it not look as much like a 2A high school stadium.
I don't know what the baseball stadium needs, can't find good pictures of it.
Disclaimer... all I've heard is they are considering the ASUN more since West Georgia is coming, don't know if both parties have had communicated about it...
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Post by unafied on Jan 29, 2024 11:56:22 GMT -6
I'm hearing chatter that West Florida may be back at the top of the ASUN expansion list... I'm wondering if West Georgia has forced their hand? Also, hearing they are about to start renovation of the football stadium and baseball stadium. Really for football, they just need some ascetic renovation, the home side is all chair back. Maybe some brick to make it not look as much like a 2A high school stadium. I don't know what the baseball stadium needs, can't find good pictures of it. Disclaimer... all I've heard is they are considering the ASUN more since West Georgia is coming, don't know if both parties have had communicated about it... I just don't think they or Valdosta really have a choice. The day is coming when the Gulf South (if it exists) will be West Alabama, Delta State, and a few small private schools. I hate that that is how it's going, but I just don't think there's anything that can really be done to stop it. Just like we felt our "peers" had all moved up, UWF and VSU have to feel the same. I assume they both know it's coming (despite what Valdosta's admins say), and are getting their ducks in a row. I'm ready for it, personally. The sooner, the better. The ASUN/UAC will be a GREAT long-term conference for us if they move up and we can keep most of the other schools from leaving. |
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Post by brandon on Jan 30, 2024 9:34:41 GMT -6
I'm hearing chatter that West Florida may be back at the top of the ASUN expansion list... I'm wondering if West Georgia has forced their hand? Also, hearing they are about to start renovation of the football stadium and baseball stadium. Really for football, they just need some ascetic renovation, the home side is all chair back. Maybe some brick to make it not look as much like a 2A high school stadium. I don't know what the baseball stadium needs, can't find good pictures of it. Disclaimer... all I've heard is they are considering the ASUN more since West Georgia is coming, don't know if both parties have had communicated about it... I just don't think they or Valdosta really have a choice. The day is coming when the Gulf South (if it exists) will be West Alabama, Delta State, and a few small private schools. I hate that that is how it's going, but I just don't think there's anything that can really be done to stop it. Just like we felt our "peers" had all moved up, UWF and VSU have to feel the same. I assume they both know it's coming (despite what Valdosta's admins say), and are getting their ducks in a row. I'm ready for it, personally. The sooner, the better. The ASUN/UAC will be a GREAT long-term conference for us if they move up and we can keep most of the other schools from leaving. I agree for the most part. Valdosta can join either a Carolina based conference or the Sunshine conference and remain D2. West Florida can realistically join the Sunshine conference but I don't think that's their long term goal. As far as West Alabama, Delta State and Mississippi College go, I think they can stay in the GSC with football being an affiliate in the LSC or GAC. I also think those football programs are strong enough to be independent in they have to. In my opinion, as far as the ASUN goes, I think there is a clear road map to get to 16 realistic, stable schools. West Georgia makes 12, West Florida, Valdosta, make 14... I don't see how the Big South keep football as a conference with only 2 football schools and I don't see the MEAC joining them. I also don't think an affiliate membership in the OVC is a good long term solution for Gardner Webb and Charleston Southern. So I'm thinking they will join sooner than later. At that point we have a solid 16. Football members will be at 9 and a solid back up if the UAC was to not work out for whatever reason. Non football ASUN can regionalize to help out with travel and either go back to divisions or a pod system. The only issue I have is Charleston Southern, I know it's difficult, and they are private, but they really need to do some facilities upgrades. Basketball is the priority in my opinion. 1A high schools have the same gym. But they do put the conference in South Carolina and a good market. Football stadium don't need much, just a little spruce up. |
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Post by unalions on Feb 2, 2024 17:01:08 GMT -6
This will cause even more chaos. Will our best players transfer mid-/late-season for a bit of NIL to join a playoff-bound team or to jump to FBS? And, of course, this applies to all sports. Yikes.
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Post by unafied on Feb 2, 2024 17:48:07 GMT -6
This will cause even more chaos. Will our best players transfer mid-/late-season for a bit of NIL to join a playoff-bound team or to jump to FBS? And, of course, this applies to all sports. Yikes. I just don’t see how that’s even possible. I’ve seen people say that athletes will eventually be able to transfer as freely as a “regular” student. But a regular student can’t transfer in the middle of a semester. I know, I know… classes are WAY down the list of priorities here. But still. If you were to try to transfer mid-season, how can you possibly “finish” classes you were taking? Or is academic eligibility just gonna cease to be enforced? I guess it might as well be, the way things are going. I think people keep drawing lines in the sand and saying “THIS is what will make me walk away!” But if guys start literally swapping teams in the middle of the season, I think I’m done. |
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Post by brandon on Feb 2, 2024 18:25:32 GMT -6
The answer is US... US, the fans...
Ask me why....
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Post by unalions on Feb 26, 2024 18:28:53 GMT -6
UMass headed to the MAC in a move that has surprised several. More rumblings of "mutual interest" between WKU and the MAC. Such a move would pave the way for EKU to get invited to CUSA. Others they would likely consider are Missouri State and Tarleton.
A rumor on the D2 board is that UWF is not necessarily looking at the ASUN for a potential jump to D1. My guess is the Southland.
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Post by brandon on Feb 27, 2024 10:45:44 GMT -6
UMass headed to the MAC in a move that has surprised several. More rumblings of "mutual interest" between WKU and the MAC. Such a move would pave the way for EKU to get invited to CUSA. Others they would likely consider are Missouri State and Tarleton. A rumor on the D2 board is that UWF is not necessarily looking at the ASUN for a potential jump to D1. My guess is the Southland. Why would they want the Southland? They have history with UNA, UWG and most of the Florida schools... and if a better conference offers, why you take the other? |
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Post by unafied on Feb 27, 2024 12:11:22 GMT -6
UMass headed to the MAC in a move that has surprised several. More rumblings of "mutual interest" between WKU and the MAC. Such a move would pave the way for EKU to get invited to CUSA. Others they would likely consider are Missouri State and Tarleton. A rumor on the D2 board is that UWF is not necessarily looking at the ASUN for a potential jump to D1. My guess is the Southland. Why would they want the Southland? They have history with UNA, UWG and most of the Florida schools... and if a better conference offers, why you take the other? The potential to recruit Louisiana and Texas? That's all I can think of. The ASUN may be a bit more spread out, but some of the schools out in west Texas have to be flown to, anyway. Hopefully they come here if they do make the move. I'd hate to lose EKU, but if WKU goes to the MAC I feel like it'll be a good possibility for CUSA to offer them the spot. |
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Post by brandon on Feb 28, 2024 9:04:40 GMT -6
UMass headed to the MAC in a move that has surprised several. More rumblings of "mutual interest" between WKU and the MAC. Such a move would pave the way for EKU to get invited to CUSA. Others they would likely consider are Missouri State and Tarleton. A rumor on the D2 board is that UWF is not necessarily looking at the ASUN for a potential jump to D1. My guess is the Southland. Been trying to find out as much as I can... I'm betting on Delaware getting to the MAC as 14 with UMASS. They have mentioned WKU as well, but haven't they already turned the MAC down? If Tarleton goes to CUSA, oh well... I would hate to lose EKU though. I think they fit the ASUN perfectly with the current setup. |
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Post by unafied on Feb 28, 2024 11:17:53 GMT -6
UMass headed to the MAC in a move that has surprised several. More rumblings of "mutual interest" between WKU and the MAC. Such a move would pave the way for EKU to get invited to CUSA. Others they would likely consider are Missouri State and Tarleton. A rumor on the D2 board is that UWF is not necessarily looking at the ASUN for a potential jump to D1. My guess is the Southland. Been trying to find out as much as I can... I'm betting on Delaware getting to the MAC as 14 with UMASS. They have mentioned WKU as well, but haven't they already turned the MAC down? If Tarleton goes to CUSA, oh well... I would hate to lose EKU though. I think they fit the ASUN perfectly with the current setup. I think the MAC turned WKU down because they couldn’t convince MTSU to come with them. They didn’t want to expand to “just” 13. Which means there has to be a 14th for them now, whether that’s WKU or Delaware. The Delaware fans online seemed to be pretty mad about “settling” for CUSA. I wouldn’t be surprised if they pulled a switch. I really don’t get why WKU wants to make that move. Seems it would be smarter to stay in a southern-based conference. You have to think over time the FCS callups will improve to at least the level of the MAC teams. |
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