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Post by tuna85 on Mar 5, 2018 10:47:38 GMT -6
Thanks. I almost felt like that information about the Big 10 had changed, but I wasn't sure. I should've looked it up before posting. And I agree that it can be beneficial for the FBS schools/fans, too. The last SEC game I went to was 8 years ago now, and I paid $150 for just one ticket. I can't justify that, even though I love watching football in person. Now that I have a wife and kid I can't imagine how expensive a single game would be. I just hope we can find a happy medium somewhere. Since I live here in Chattanooga, I see the Mocs schedule a yearly SEC beatdown. I just don't want that for us. It's painful to lose, even understanding the circumstances. You just have to be smart about who you schedule. It seems we are taking the NDSU approach, and I like it. They don't usually schedule the best FBS schools, they usually schedule the ones they match up with better. They don't always win them either. I (unlike some) don't think playing Alabama is a good idea. They wouldn't anyway, but they will play Chattanooga. I would rather play Vandy for half the money and an opportunity to win. Memphis has been good lately, but that's not historical. Coaching changes drastically affect a G5 program, so who knows how they will be in 2022? The best thing for UNA at this point going forward is FANS.... Show up, let's give other schools a reason to dred playing in Florence, and give the Prez a good reason to build a new stadium. I would love to see an average home game this year be 9k+ and with only D2 schools. By the end of the transition, I would like to see sold out average. If that was to happen, no doubt there will be a new stadium in no time. But it's on us, we have to help sell the program, we have to show up when we can. The University can only market so much, it is up to the Fans themselves to create the Buzz that brings people to the games, that being said, I take it that nobody wants to have a tailgate area for the forum members? Well stated. Must have missed the comment on tailgater are. Don't know if we need a special area but, I wouldn't mind an opportunity for the forum members to get together to greet one another. Doesn't necessarily have to be at a football game, could be baseball or other... just a chance to meet and pull for good old UNA at the same time. Not against a special area if it helps grow the forum and helps to create Buzz.
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Mar 5, 2018 11:56:54 GMT -6
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Post by RoaringlikeaLion on Mar 5, 2018 11:56:54 GMT -6
I definitely agree. The athletic department can only do so much with getting fans to not go see auburn and Alabama play, but come watch your local college play less than an hour away. The fans can create an atmosphere to where opposing teams hate it. The athletics department does need to do a better job in helping it be hostile territory when visiting teams come in to play instead of catering to their every demand. You can welcome them but don’t go overboard into kissing ass and puckering up to them. Need a nice size student section and crowd that stays after halftime instead of leaving right after the band finishes their halftime performance
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Mar 5, 2018 19:21:33 GMT -6
Post by kperk1959 on Mar 5, 2018 19:21:33 GMT -6
I just hope we didn't move up and plan future budgets completely based on these supposed "money games". I think the Big 10 has already decided to stop playing FCS teams. What if the other conferences decide to do the same? Now, if we schedule a "name team" every 3 or 4 years? I can live with that, though like I said, I'd prefer for us try to schedule them in early September so we do have a better shot at winning. A few years ago Charleston Southern, ranked something like #2 in FCS, got absolutely hammered by Alabama the weekend before the Iron Bowl. Whether the game "counts" towards your own division or not, that can't be a confidence booster going into the playoffs. the big 14 only did that so they could play ALL of the cream puffs in the big 14. They get more credit for playing and beating a comatose team like illinois than Alabama does for playing Fresno State who is probably better than the60% of the dregs in the big 14. That was just one of those things for Charleston Southern. Of course with that one game check they were able to fund all of the sports that produce only negative revenue along with many other things.
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Post by kperk1959 on Mar 5, 2018 19:23:13 GMT -6
I definitely agree. The athletic department can only do so much with getting fans to not go see auburn and Alabama play, but come watch your local college play less than an hour away. The fans can create an atmosphere to where opposing teams hate it. The athletics department does need to do a better job in helping it be hostile territory when visiting teams come in to play instead of catering to their every demand. You can welcome them but don’t go overboard into kissing ass and puckering up to them. Need a nice size student section and crowd that stays after halftime instead of leaving right after the band finishes their halftime performance They CAN help by not throw old men coming off of back surgery into jail for supporting the Lions.
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Mar 5, 2018 19:39:33 GMT -6
Post by kperk1959 on Mar 5, 2018 19:39:33 GMT -6
I just hope we didn't move up and plan future budgets completely based on these supposed "money games". I think the Big 10 has already decided to stop playing FCS teams. What if the other conferences decide to do the same? Now, if we schedule a "name team" every 3 or 4 years? I can live with that, though like I said, I'd prefer for us try to schedule them in early September so we do have a better shot at winning. A few years ago Charleston Southern, ranked something like #2 in FCS, got absolutely hammered by Alabama the weekend before the Iron Bowl. Whether the game "counts" towards your own division or not, that can't be a confidence booster going into the playoffs. I'm sure we won't play anymore than one P5 team per year. Jax State did it right. In 25 years, they played enough big boys to give them the cash to finally become a power in FCS. One year they beat Ole Miss. One year they gave Michigan State a good game in the first half before falling and cashing a check for $625,000 and the players were happy. They had Auburn beat a couple of years ago before losing but winning almost three quarters of a million dollars. They also played Arkansas, Florida, Kentucky, Ole Miss, Georgia Tech (twice), Florida State, Mississippi State (twice) and Kansas. To the players it's like getting to play FBS football without going to an FBS school. Just think of the recruiting tool THAT is. Coach to recruit: Outside of our conference play, we've played in Lansing, Mi, Jordan-Hare, we've walked the Grove, we've played in The Swamp, Doak Campbell and you won't believe who we will be playing in the future. Player to the coach: Where do I sign?
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Post by kperk1959 on Mar 5, 2018 19:49:40 GMT -6
I am curious to see how much Memphis is going to pay UNA. And we all know, the P5 schools will probably pay more than the G5 schools will. But let's put money aside, from any FBS schools, who should you like to see UNA play? My list is South Alabama Troy UAB Vandy Southern Miss Kentucky West Virginia Texas If we could get 200k from Memphis, I would be happy. I'm sure they pay nowhere near the level of a P5 school. Even at that, if you add up the revenue after expenses for every athletic event UNA/FSU/FSC, we will make at least 15 times more money in this one game than all of our history together. Because of the relatively close proximity, they may not pay us quite as much as they would a team from Michigan.
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Post by leoanduna on Mar 7, 2018 12:15:18 GMT -6
It is interesting to see the emphasis shift from wanting to win a national championship to playing teams that UNA cannot defeat. I know, that is UNA's future.
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Mar 7, 2018 13:04:09 GMT -6
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Post by tuna85 on Mar 7, 2018 13:04:09 GMT -6
It is interesting to see the emphasis shift from wanting to win a national championship to playing teams that UNA cannot defeat. I know, that is UNA's future. I think the emphasis is still to win National championships. I think there is recognition that, starting out, this will be nigh on to impossible as the rules preclude this from happening and recruiting will be impacted by these rules. I grant you, going undefeated will be a tall order based on some of the teams we could be playing. One never knows, I still remember Appy State beating Michigan. Fortunately, in FCS, if you can win your conference, you can compete in the playoffs as an AQ. Let's not forget, Coastal Carolina, then of the Big South Conference, won the NCAA Baseball College World Series in 2016. This as an FCS team. It has been done and can be done again. Many think Stetson of the ASun can go far this year. This year their baseball team has bested: UCF, Virginia Tech, Central Michigan, and Purdue.
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Mar 7, 2018 13:19:38 GMT -6
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Post by brandon on Mar 7, 2018 13:19:38 GMT -6
It is interesting to see the emphasis shift from wanting to win a national championship to playing teams that UNA cannot defeat. I know, that is UNA's future. Who says UNA can't beat Memphis? I'm sure people said a D2 school couldn't beat a FBS school several years ago but we did. That was probably the game that made the rule they FBS could no longer schedule D2, I haven't saw one since. I don't want to just play money games. Like I said, i would like to play money games that also match up well for UNA. And why are you saying that UNA's future is not winning national championships? UNA has always been blessed with their location and fan support. Both of which, are great recruiting tools. Pair that with being D1,(which is why a lot of our first recruiting class came) and you have a recipe for success. Are we going to contend for national championships the year after the transition? Who knows. But I do know that pessimism ain't going to help one bit, and like I have said before, it is up to the Fans like ourselves to help sell the programs a d grow them. No we are not competing with Alabama or Auburn in football, but we have to in all other sports. Let's be the best fans in D1 athletics and show peaple why we love UNA. Roar Lions dang it.
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Post by unafied on Mar 7, 2018 13:23:32 GMT -6
It is interesting to see the emphasis shift from wanting to win a national championship to playing teams that UNA cannot defeat. I know, that is UNA's future. Pal, this is why I was a #StayD2 holdout for a long time. College basketball is my second favorite sport. I hate that, at least as the sport exists at this moment, our chances of winning a title in that sport are slim to none for the foreseeable future (make your own joke about the current men's team and D2). I do think our football team will be just fine, even if it takes us a few years to get back up to speed. We can compete for championships in FCS. If Jacksonville State can, we absolutely can. Like tuna85 said, outside basketball there is not quite as much as an advantage for power conference schools. Maybe we can find our niche in baseball (especially considering our pretty good history there), or volleyball, or golf. I'm just excited to be playing a new crop of teams, as shallow as that maybe is. Our rivalries with some of the current GSC schools were fun, but there are so many possibilities for match-ups in D1 that just seem more exciting than anything left for us in D2. Maybe we hadn't accomplished everything we could in D2... but we were pretty close.
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Mar 7, 2018 19:26:09 GMT -6
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Post by catscratchfever4 on Mar 7, 2018 19:26:09 GMT -6
It is interesting to see the emphasis shift from wanting to win a national championship to playing teams that UNA cannot defeat. I know, that is UNA's future. Pal, this is why I was a #StayD2 holdout for a long time. College basketball is my second favorite sport. I hate that, at least as the sport exists at this moment, our chances of winning a title in that sport are slim to none for the foreseeable future (make your own joke about the current men's team and D2). I do think our football team will be just fine, even if it takes us a few years to get back up to speed. We can compete for championships in FCS. If Jacksonville State can, we absolutely can. Like tuna85 said, outside basketball there is not quite as much as an advantage for power conference schools. Maybe we can find our niche in baseball (especially considering our pretty good history there), or volleyball, or golf. I'm just excited to be playing a new crop of teams, as shallow as that maybe is. Our rivalries with some of the current GSC schools were fun, but there are so many possibilities for match-ups in D1 that just seem more exciting than anything left for us in D2. Maybe we hadn't accomplished everything we could in D2... but we were pretty close. FIVE National Championships in the 2 sports people really care about and two more with a possibility of a third. I would say that is what caused the backslide at UNA. When you've reached the mountaintops of D2 as many times as we have, it's hard to regain that hunger to go back to the same ole mountain.
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Mar 7, 2018 19:29:27 GMT -6
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Post by brandon on Mar 7, 2018 19:29:27 GMT -6
Pal, this is why I was a #StayD2 holdout for a long time. College basketball is my second favorite sport. I hate that, at least as the sport exists at this moment, our chances of winning a title in that sport are slim to none for the foreseeable future (make your own joke about the current men's team and D2). I do think our football team will be just fine, even if it takes us a few years to get back up to speed. We can compete for championships in FCS. If Jacksonville State can, we absolutely can. Like tuna85 said, outside basketball there is not quite as much as an advantage for power conference schools. Maybe we can find our niche in baseball (especially considering our pretty good history there), or volleyball, or golf. I'm just excited to be playing a new crop of teams, as shallow as that maybe is. Our rivalries with some of the current GSC schools were fun, but there are so many possibilities for match-ups in D1 that just seem more exciting than anything left for us in D2. Maybe we hadn't accomplished everything we could in D2... but we were pretty close. FIVE National Championships in the 2 sports people really care about. I would say that is what caused the backslide at UNA. When you've reached the mountaintops of D2 as many times as we have, it's hard to regain that hunger to go back to the same ole mountain. People care about Softball here too.
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Post by catscratchfever4 on Mar 7, 2018 19:40:39 GMT -6
A reminder about basketball: because of low numbers required to play the sport, it will be the easiest to make strides in and when we are able to take prospects into the new arena, coach x and his staff will have no excuse for not getting us some good players. And to those who are saddened because the Lions will never win it all again in basketball, how many national championships have been won by Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, LSU, GEORGIA, Vanderbilt, Ole Miss and many many other big names across the nation?
altogether, ZERO.
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