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Post by unalions on Oct 11, 2022 19:26:55 GMT -6
We are nowhere near an FBS university. We struggle even being an FCS university at the moment. I seriously hope someone has been misinformed.. I agree but I don't think Matt Brown is misinformed at all. I'll expand a bit more later.
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Post by unalions on Oct 11, 2022 19:28:38 GMT -6
We are nowhere near an FBS university. We struggle even being an FCS university at the moment. I seriously hope someone has been misinformed.. Based off this year alone can’t you see us dominating and playing in an early bowl game. Toilet Bowl has our name all over it. Does make you wonder if that is why the vote just happened to build the stadium on campus? Of course that means 3 years before it is actually built. I do think it's all playing together. For sure. But as far as competitiveness, I just shared this on D2Football.com. What I've learned is that success doesn't seem to matter when conferences want to call you up from another division. CUSA was in real trouble and is now poaching the ASUN to stabilize itself. But, in turn, has likely killed what could have been a great FCS conference.
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Post by unalions on Oct 11, 2022 19:33:21 GMT -6
Hear me out.
Someone on AGS posted this:
Liberty - was a bad FCS program that had to buy it's way into the FBS and then had to buy a conference (CUSA) to get into one and is now buying programs to come into it
I thought about it a bit and responded with this. Thoughts? Are we being played by a puppet school for their "master plan"?
As all of this continues to unfold, I see this as being the driver of it all.
It's been tough for UNA to go through a four-year transition with a school like Liberty in the conference due to their unlimited funds and amazing facilities. But, they have sort of been the big brother to many ASUN programs, like UNA, who see what a real budget can do. They threw the Lions a bone in 2020 and scheduled them in football.
I can totally see this as their master plan, however. They've been FBS Indy for several years now and needed a conference home. The chips started falling in P5, then G5, and they saw their in! A conference on its last legs needing an interested school with a lot of money. Next, they needed more football schools. Liberty's current conference just happens to have several.
Now, more ASUN teams are/will be invited and all of a sudden, the votes are there to over rule WKU and invite EKU (who would be their closest CUSA foe to Lynchburg).
I dunno really. But, I just see Liberty as pulling most of the strings here. Of course, to set themselves up for CUSA domination in every sport until they are eventually invited to the ACC. Thus, fulfilling the mission to move from the Big South to P5.
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Post by unalions on Oct 13, 2022 15:22:51 GMT -6
Very interesting podcast interview with Matt Brown. Listen starting at 8:00 but stick around to about 32:00 as well. youtu.be/HjNnzqBTudE?t=481
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Post by unalions on Oct 14, 2022 15:50:36 GMT -6
KSU is officially gone.
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Post by unalions on Oct 14, 2022 16:15:41 GMT -6
Another tweet of interest.
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Post by unalions on Oct 20, 2022 16:35:16 GMT -6
I think the ASUN should go after 3-5 GSC football schools.
VSU, UWF, and UWG all have larger enrollments than UNA and Jax State. Also, the smaller schools like DSU, UWA, and Miss College (who is very competitive in football this year and has wealthy alumni) are all bigger than several football schools in the SoCon.
Taking 5 puts ASUN football at 9, Stetson in the PFL, and six non-football schools to make 16 for the league and fills in the geographical divide between the north and south parts of the conference.
ASUN Football would be:
APSU UCA EKU UNA VSU UWF UWG DSU UWA (or MC)
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Post by brandon on Oct 21, 2022 8:37:36 GMT -6
I think the ASUN should go after 3-5 GSC football schools. VSU, UWF, and UWG all have larger enrollments than UNA and Jax State. Also, the smaller schools like DSU, UWA, and Miss College (who is very competitive in football this year and has wealthy alumni) are all bigger than several football schools in the SoCon. Taking 5 puts ASUN football at 9, Stetson in the PFL, and six non-football schools to make 16 for the league and fills in the geographical divide between the north and south parts of the conference. ASUN Football would be: APSU UCA EKU UNA VSU UWF UWG DSU UWA (or MC) I don't think anyone but UWG, VSU and UWF could sustain... So go after those. Then move west, I would offer NWMSU and Pitt St.
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Post by unafied on Oct 21, 2022 9:28:36 GMT -6
I know y'all know it, but the biggest problem with a mass D2 callup is the 4-year wait for them to actually "count". Now, if the NCAA were to do away with that probationary period, sure. But otherwise we are stuck in the ASUN/WAC hybrid for AT LEAST another 4 years.
Obviously most of us would probably prefer to go to CUSA, but I can't see us being any better than 3rd on their current pecking order behind EKU and Stephen F. Austin. So they'd have to decide to expand to 14 to take us. I'm not betting on it, especially since they might even prefer Austin Peay or Central Arkansas before choosing us.
If the SoCon refuses to add any schools, and that seems to be the case, we'd be better off just trying to go to the Southland (maybe with UCA and APSU) or, whether we like it or not, the OVC. Of course, unlike 2 years ago neither of them actually need more schools now. So we might have to beg just to get an invite.
What a mess.
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Post by unalions on Oct 21, 2022 10:01:51 GMT -6
I know y'all know it, but the biggest problem with a mass D2 callup is the 4-year wait for them to actually "count". Now, if the NCAA were to do away with that probationary period, sure. But otherwise we are stuck in the ASUN/WAC hybrid for AT LEAST another 4 years. Obviously most of us would probably prefer to go to CUSA, but I can't see us being any better than 3rd on their current pecking order behind EKU and Stephen F. Austin. So they'd have to decide to expand to 14 to take us. I'm not betting on it, especially since they might even prefer Austin Peay or Central Arkansas before choosing us. If the SoCon refuses to add any schools, and that seems to be the case, we'd be better off just trying to go to the Southland (maybe with UCA and APSU) or, whether we like it or not, the OVC. Of course, unlike 2 years ago neither of them actually need more schools now. So we might have to beg just to get an invite. What a mess. The NCAA took no action in August on a vote to shorten the transition period. D2 call ups are just a daydream really. It’s not gonna happen. But there’s no way we’re remotely ready for CUSA and nor do I want UNA to have to constantly compete with Liberty’s endless cash flow for conference titles.
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Post by unafied on Oct 21, 2022 10:25:29 GMT -6
I know y'all know it, but the biggest problem with a mass D2 callup is the 4-year wait for them to actually "count". Now, if the NCAA were to do away with that probationary period, sure. But otherwise we are stuck in the ASUN/WAC hybrid for AT LEAST another 4 years. Obviously most of us would probably prefer to go to CUSA, but I can't see us being any better than 3rd on their current pecking order behind EKU and Stephen F. Austin. So they'd have to decide to expand to 14 to take us. I'm not betting on it, especially since they might even prefer Austin Peay or Central Arkansas before choosing us. If the SoCon refuses to add any schools, and that seems to be the case, we'd be better off just trying to go to the Southland (maybe with UCA and APSU) or, whether we like it or not, the OVC. Of course, unlike 2 years ago neither of them actually need more schools now. So we might have to beg just to get an invite. What a mess. The NCAA took no action in August on a vote to shorten the transition period. D2 call ups are just a daydream really. It’s not gonna happen. But there’s no way we’re remotely ready for CUSA and nor do I want UNA to have to constantly compete with Liberty’s endless cash flow for conference titles. Oh I agree. FCS is best for us, I just hate to see us once again left behind while teams we enjoy playing move on to bigger and better things. It's the early 90s all over again. I DO hope the Valdosta/UWG/UWF trio eventually move up and join whatever conference we're in. The sooner, the better.
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Post by brandon on Oct 21, 2022 12:54:28 GMT -6
The NCAA took no action in August on a vote to shorten the transition period. D2 call ups are just a daydream really. It’s not gonna happen. But there’s no way we’re remotely ready for CUSA and nor do I want UNA to have to constantly compete with Liberty’s endless cash flow for conference titles. Oh I agree. FCS is best for us, I just hate to see us once again left behind while teams we enjoy playing move on to bigger and better things. It's the early 90s all over again. I DO hope the Valdosta/UWG/UWF trio eventually move up and join whatever conference we're in. The sooner, the better. I think I would love to see the SoCon come off their stance of not expanding and get the rest of the ASUN football schools... Maybe a couple of non football schools as well West UCA, UNA, APSU, Samford, Chattanooga, EKU, Bellarmine*, Lipscomb* East Western Carolina, ETSU, VMI, Wofford, Furman, Citadel, Mercer, UC Greenville* Football would be no different than MVFC or Big Sky as far as numbers. Nobody is leaving with a 2m exit fee either...
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Post by roaringsince96 on Oct 21, 2022 18:42:30 GMT -6
Imagine our instant success at the FCS level has to excite anyone from the GSC that was/is interested. I am glad we are officially D1 now but wouldn’t wish that on anyone…well maybe West Georgia. I wouldn’t rule us out of any conference. We are definitely becoming more attractive as we continue to improve in status. Can’t look at this totally from sports. University is leading state in growth, nursing program is top program in the state. Location in corner of Alabama is easy for Arkansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Georgia, and Florida. Should be a fun year as dominoes fall.
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Post by unalions on Oct 28, 2022 15:21:26 GMT -6
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Post by brandon on Oct 28, 2022 15:55:48 GMT -6
They won't be in CUSA long...
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