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Post by brandon on Jul 11, 2022 18:03:21 GMT -6
SFA apparently has been taking to the ASUN about joining....
So has McNeese St....
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Post by ekusteve on Jul 11, 2022 19:45:44 GMT -6
SFA apparently has been taking to the ASUN about joining.... So has McNeese St.... Those would be great additions and a great football conference.
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Post by unafied on Jul 12, 2022 8:02:13 GMT -6
If SFA were to leave the WAC at this point, it would basically be dead, right? I think that would just leave Abilene Christian, the two Utah schools, and Tarleton. I may be forgetting someone, but they are certainly hurting for members (like the ASUN, obviously).
Why wouldn't SFA just return to the Southland in that scenario? Too much pride?
I'm all for one or both schools joining us, but I still think the best option long-term would be to just create a joint football-only conference for the ASUN and WAC schools. I mean we're basically at that point anyway with sharing the one auto-bid. It will ensure neither conference falls below the numbers limit, helps with scheduling, and maybe even opens the ASUN schools up to taking a few recruits from Texas. I just like the idea of a smaller conference footprint for Olympic sports. I know they aren't spending MY money, but traveling way out to Texas for conference volleyball matches on a Tuesday night seems silly (I'm looking at you, B1G).
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Post by brandon on Jul 12, 2022 8:13:32 GMT -6
If SFA were to leave the WAC at this point, it would basically be dead, right? I think that would just leave Abilene Christian, the two Utah schools, and Tarleton. I may be forgetting someone, but they are certainly hurting for members (like the ASUN, obviously). Why wouldn't SFA just return to the Southland in that scenario? Too much pride? I'm all for one or both schools joining us, but I still think the best option long-term would be to just create a joint football-only conference for the ASUN and WAC schools. I mean we're basically at that point anyway with sharing the one auto-bid. It will ensure neither conference falls below the numbers limit, helps with scheduling, and maybe even opens the ASUN schools up to taking a few recruits from Texas. I just like the idea of a smaller conference footprint for Olympic sports. I know they aren't spending MY money, but traveling way out to Texas for conference volleyball matches on a Tuesday night seems silly (I'm looking at you, B1G). It may be silly for FGCU or now Queens, but SFA is pretty much as East Texas as it gets. Don't seem like it would be a bad trip for us, and in Their case, since SHSU is leaving, they may not have much keeping them in the WAC. I think the East/West ASUN divisions would make things easier to swallow for olympic sports as well... Anyway, just posting what I've heard.
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Post by unafied on Jul 12, 2022 9:03:29 GMT -6
If SFA were to leave the WAC at this point, it would basically be dead, right? I think that would just leave Abilene Christian, the two Utah schools, and Tarleton. I may be forgetting someone, but they are certainly hurting for members (like the ASUN, obviously). Why wouldn't SFA just return to the Southland in that scenario? Too much pride? I'm all for one or both schools joining us, but I still think the best option long-term would be to just create a joint football-only conference for the ASUN and WAC schools. I mean we're basically at that point anyway with sharing the one auto-bid. It will ensure neither conference falls below the numbers limit, helps with scheduling, and maybe even opens the ASUN schools up to taking a few recruits from Texas. I just like the idea of a smaller conference footprint for Olympic sports. I know they aren't spending MY money, but traveling way out to Texas for conference volleyball matches on a Tuesday night seems silly (I'm looking at you, B1G). It may be silly for FGCU or now Queens, but SFA is pretty much as East Texas as it gets. Don't seem like it would be a bad trip for us, and in Their case, since SHSU is leaving, they may not have much keeping them in the WAC. I think the East/West ASUN divisions would make things easier to swallow for olympic sports as well... Anyway, just posting what I've heard. Yeah it wouldn't be THAT bad, especially if McNeese came along as a "travel partner". I'm pretty sure I read SFA was disappointed with the Southland as a basketball league, which is why they made the jump to the WAC. But now without their biggest rival (Sam Houston), and the WAC being more unstable overall than the ASUN, I could see them looking for a way out. And I know McNeese has eyed FBS before.
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Post by ladigahills on Jul 17, 2022 7:54:34 GMT -6
SFA apparently has been taking to the ASUN about joining.... So has McNeese St.... McNeese is staying in Southland. SLC is letting Mcneese host most of conference championships since they didn't jump to the WAC. i doubt SFA joins because of WAC/ASUN partnership. Both conference's need each other right now.
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Post by unafied on Aug 3, 2022 7:23:17 GMT -6
Campbell appears to be moving to the CAA in all sports. That puts that conference at 14 schools, and *15* for football. Not sure how they can make that work.
Of course, the Big South had already decided to merge with OVC for the football autobid, but man... that conference is looking pretty weak. I'm seeing a lineup of:
- Southeast Missouri (OVC) - Tennessee Tech (OVC) - Tennessee State (OVC) - UT-Martin (OVC) - Eastern Illinois (OVC) - Lindenwood (OVC, moving up from D2 this year I believe) - Charleston Southern (BSC) - Gardner Webb (BSC) - Robert Morris (BSC) - Bryant (BSC)
There's just not a lot of great football in that group.
Obviously Tennessee Tech and TSU have been talked about and/or rumored to be interested in moving to the ASUN. From a competitive standpoint, the ASUN would certainly be an upgrade. But I can also see this group being relatively stable, since most of these schools really don't have anywhere else they can go.
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Post by brandon on Aug 3, 2022 8:18:17 GMT -6
Campbell appears to be moving to the CAA in all sports. That puts that conference at 14 schools, and *15* for football. Not sure how they can make that work. Of course, the Big South had already decided to merge with OVC for the football autobid, but man... that conference is looking pretty weak. I'm seeing a lineup of: - Southeast Missouri (OVC) - Tennessee Tech (OVC) - Tennessee State (OVC) - UT-Martin (OVC) - Eastern Illinois (OVC) - Lindenwood (OVC, moving up from D2 this year I believe) - Charleston Southern (BSC) - Gardner Webb (BSC) - Robert Morris (BSC) - Bryant (BSC) There's just not a lot of great football in that group. Obviously Tennessee Tech and TSU have been talked about and/or rumored to be interested in moving to the ASUN. From a competitive standpoint, the ASUN would certainly be an upgrade. But I can also see this group being relatively stable, since most of these schools really don't have anywhere else they can go. I hope Gardner Webb and Charleston Southern don't ask to be in the ASUN... Or at least I hope we don't accept them. Unless both decide to put an emphasis on football.
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Post by tuna85 on Aug 3, 2022 8:57:10 GMT -6
Campbell appears to be moving to the CAA in all sports. That puts that conference at 14 schools, and *15* for football. Not sure how they can make that work. Of course, the Big South had already decided to merge with OVC for the football autobid, but man... that conference is looking pretty weak. I'm seeing a lineup of: - Southeast Missouri (OVC) - Tennessee Tech (OVC) - Tennessee State (OVC) - UT-Martin (OVC) - Eastern Illinois (OVC) - Lindenwood (OVC, moving up from D2 this year I believe) - Charleston Southern (BSC) - Gardner Webb (BSC) - Robert Morris (BSC) - Bryant (BSC) There's just not a lot of great football in that group. Obviously Tennessee Tech and TSU have been talked about and/or rumored to be interested in moving to the ASUN. From a competitive standpoint, the ASUN would certainly be an upgrade. But I can also see this group being relatively stable, since most of these schools really don't have anywhere else they can go. As antsy as the ASun football has seemed; definitely the right move when compared with staying in the Big South!
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Post by unafied on Aug 3, 2022 8:58:46 GMT -6
Campbell appears to be moving to the CAA in all sports. That puts that conference at 14 schools, and *15* for football. Not sure how they can make that work. Of course, the Big South had already decided to merge with OVC for the football autobid, but man... that conference is looking pretty weak. I'm seeing a lineup of: - Southeast Missouri (OVC) - Tennessee Tech (OVC) - Tennessee State (OVC) - UT-Martin (OVC) - Eastern Illinois (OVC) - Lindenwood (OVC, moving up from D2 this year I believe) - Charleston Southern (BSC) - Gardner Webb (BSC) - Robert Morris (BSC) - Bryant (BSC) There's just not a lot of great football in that group. Obviously Tennessee Tech and TSU have been talked about and/or rumored to be interested in moving to the ASUN. From a competitive standpoint, the ASUN would certainly be an upgrade. But I can also see this group being relatively stable, since most of these schools really don't have anywhere else they can go. I hope Gardner Webb and Charleston Southern don't ask to be in the ASUN... Or at least I hope we don't accept them. Unless both decide to put an emphasis on football. I agree. But, if the ASUN is true to its word of only accepting "state" schools, they won't get invited. Both are private. The Tennessee schools definitely make the most sense. But if they were going to join, you would think it would've happened by now. So I'm not sure what the ASUN's next play is. Perhaps we'll just share a bid with the WAC for the next few years and see how the rest of the landscape changes.
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Post by brandon on Aug 3, 2022 10:04:59 GMT -6
I hope Gardner Webb and Charleston Southern don't ask to be in the ASUN... Or at least I hope we don't accept them. Unless both decide to put an emphasis on football. I agree. But, if the ASUN is true to its word of only accepting "state" schools, they won't get invited. Both are private. The Tennessee schools definitely make the most sense. But if they were going to join, you would think it would've happened by now. So I'm not sure what the ASUN's next play is. Perhaps we'll just share a bid with the WAC for the next few years and see how the rest of the landscape changes. I wonder if the OVC makes a play at them... If so, I see not only the Tennessee schools wanting out, but SEMO as well. With UCA in the ASUN and SEMOs geography, they wouldn't be that big of an outlier in the ASUN. I also like SFA and their geography.
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Post by unalions on Aug 3, 2022 11:27:40 GMT -6
Gumbart needs to pull in two more football schools very soon. Personally, I'm tired of UNA being in a conference that's so unstable regarding football.
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Post by unalions on Oct 11, 2022 14:15:00 GMT -6
Wow. Just seeing all of this on other boards! Via D1.Ticker:Extra Points purveyor Brown writes further on potential Conference USA expansion beyond the report last week of Kennesaw State joining the fold: "Multiple industry sources have told me that while Eastern Kentucky is very interested, Western Kentucky has made it very clear that they do not want the Colonels in the league. Tarleton State has not been shy about expressing their interest in joining the league, but multiple industry sources have told me that Conference USA is not nearly as interested in them...at least right now. Missouri State, I'm told, remains focused on hoping to eventually join the Sun Belt, not Conference USA. Stephen F Austin, I'm been consistently told, would prefer not to make an FBS transition at this particular moment due to costs and infrastructure requirements. Unless a new school emerges, the candidate pool would likely just be the remaining ASUN football programs, like Central Arkansas, Austin Peay, or North Alabama." From AGS forums:Wow, some news from the usually reliable Matt Brown this morning on the CUSA expansion front. Per Brown of Extra Points, “Austin Peay, Central Arkansas and North Alabama” are top candidates for CUSA expansion.
EKU being kept out of the league by WKU. Edit: I’ll link the article, it is however behind a paywall. www.extrapointsmb.com/confer...e-owls-rumors/
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Post by lion1979 on Oct 11, 2022 18:47:50 GMT -6
We are nowhere near an FBS university. We struggle even being an FCS university at the moment. I seriously hope someone has been misinformed..
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Post by roaringsince96 on Oct 11, 2022 19:17:06 GMT -6
We are nowhere near an FBS university. We struggle even being an FCS university at the moment. I seriously hope someone has been misinformed.. Based off this year alone can’t you see us dominating and playing in an early bowl game. Toilet Bowl has our name all over it. Does make you wonder if that is why the vote just happened to build the stadium on campus? Of course that means 3 years before it is actually built.
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