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Post by brandon on Nov 14, 2022 18:48:01 GMT -6
Any news/rumors of coaching search? I understand UNA is small school and less covered, but there has to be some reports or rumors about some coaches interested. I've asked around, and they seem hush about it. One thought I have come across, Cadillac Williams, if Auburn don't want to take a chance on him because he doesn't have ANY head coach experience, so he could come hear for a few years, let Auburn do what they do, then if he wants to go, and they need him, okay.
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Post by roaringsince96 on Nov 14, 2022 19:32:35 GMT -6
I hope Reed Stringer is interested in the job. Under Huspedth, Croom, and now with Hall at S.Miss. He is known as a top recruiter and knows how to recruit the south. I have no idea if Reed is interested? 42 or 43 years old, would think he is ready to be a head coach. Reed has been around some good head coaches.
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Post by unalions on Nov 14, 2022 19:42:53 GMT -6
Any news/rumors of coaching search? I understand UNA is small school and less covered, but there has to be some reports or rumors about some coaches interested. I've asked around, and they seem hush about it. One thought I have come across, Cadillac Williams, if Auburn don't want to take a chance on him because he doesn't have ANY head coach experience, so he could come hear for a few years, let Auburn do what they do, then if he wants to go, and they need him, okay. Any “name” like that from the SEC would be a home run for recruiting. UNA has to find a way to stand out with this hire. He’d certainly be a way to stand out. Similar to Jax State hiring Rich Rod. Sure, he’s the opposite of Cadillac as far as experience but was on a downward trend. Yet, an FBS “name” that parents of recruits recognize. It’s really about convincing kids and parents. We need a coach that can do that. I’m not sure a D2 call up from the MIAA or GLIAC can come do that in NW Alabama where SEC and FBS loom so large.
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Post by unalions on Nov 14, 2022 19:46:04 GMT -6
I hope Reed Stringer is interested in the job. Under Huspedth, Croom, and now with Hall at S.Miss. He is known as a top recruiter and knows how to recruit the south. I have no idea if Reed is interested? 42 or 43 years old, would think he is ready to be a head coach. Reed has been around some good head coaches. Very interesting. Another connection to that 2000 Delta State championship team.
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Post by unaman on Nov 15, 2022 8:20:57 GMT -6
I'm hearing that Held may get the job... That would make sense as to why they are quiet about it. If he is hired, what are we doing? Also, Willis apparently already has a job lined up with the University or something with the state to get that 25 years for retirement.
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Post by unafied on Nov 15, 2022 8:51:03 GMT -6
I'm hearing that Held may get the job... That would make sense as to why they are quiet about it. If he is hired, what are we doing? Also, Willis apparently already has a job lined up with the University or something with the state to get that 25 years for retirement. If that happens, I'll really struggle to find a reason to watch next year. And I don't have anything against Held, but the laziness of that would only be rivalled by hiring Willis 7 years ago.
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Post by unaman on Nov 15, 2022 9:35:40 GMT -6
I'm hearing that Held may get the job... That would make sense as to why they are quiet about it. If he is hired, what are we doing? Also, Willis apparently already has a job lined up with the University or something with the state to get that 25 years for retirement. If that happens, I'll really struggle to find a reason to watch next year. And I don't have anything against Held, but the laziness of that would only be rivalled by hiring Willis 7 years ago. Could not agree more. I guess he has connections at the FBS level that he could theoretically put together a good staff, but I bet he would bring most of the Nebraska buddies that all got fired. He hasn't been a head coach of a non Juco school since 2008 and has a 35-52 record. Both of the Jucos weren't great either (17-22). UNA is ruining their football program from the inside due to nepotism and buddy mentality.
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Post by lion1979 on Nov 15, 2022 9:42:22 GMT -6
I'm hearing that Held may get the job... That would make sense as to why they are quiet about it. If he is hired, what are we doing? Also, Willis apparently already has a job lined up with the University or something with the state to get that 25 years for retirement. In my opinion, this would be a horrible idea. This program has lacked excitement to recruits and fans for lets be honest, about 5 years. We need a fresh start. Announce a coach that would be attractive to the recruits and community and put out a PLAN for the new stadium to be built, not just a damn blue print..
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Post by unalions on Nov 15, 2022 10:07:40 GMT -6
I'm hearing that Held may get the job... That would make sense as to why they are quiet about it. If he is hired, what are we doing? Also, Willis apparently already has a job lined up with the University or something with the state to get that 25 years for retirement. I will laugh in their faces if they keep Held on! Hahaha. What a joke. I’ll be done as a UNA football fan and I’ve been a fan since I was 12 years old in 1985.
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Post by brandon on Nov 15, 2022 10:29:49 GMT -6
Devil's advocate...
IF Held will do away with the rest of the staff, keep the offense going the right direction and be better on defense, I think he can win games.
It's true he don't have good head coach record, I myself don't know what kind of programs he was coaching. Can you actually win there or did he do the best you can do there? What if someone only looked at Wallace's record at Temple and said, man, he is a bad coach?
The point is(Im not advocating for him) we won't know until we know.
My list is
Shinnik Cadillac Williams AJ Hudspeth
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Post by unalions on Nov 15, 2022 10:36:22 GMT -6
What if someone only looked at Wallace's record at Temple and said, man, he is a bad coach? He’d won three national titles before Temple. Held has barely has any winning seasons at all as a head coach. But, it would be par for the course for UNA to walk down the hall and make another lazy hire.
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Post by unafied on Nov 15, 2022 10:37:25 GMT -6
It's not even about Held, to me. He might do a decent job, and probably more so if the program was already in a good place. But we are at absolute rock bottom. No wins against a single D1 team this year, no stadium plan that we're aware of, and even with a new practice field locker room, likely still trailing some other schools in our conference (ASUN + WAC) in facilities. You absolutely should not and cannot go for a lazy hire here. It needs to be someone who can bring energy and fan support back.
I've said it several times already, but if all of this is a money thing, WE SHOULD NOT HAVE LEFT D2.
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Post by brandon on Nov 15, 2022 10:47:33 GMT -6
What if someone only looked at Wallace's record at Temple and said, man, he is a bad coach? He’d won three national titles before Temple. Held has barely has any winning seasons at all as a head coach. But, it would be par for the course for UNA to walk down the hall and make another lazy hire. That's not what I'm saying... I'm saying what if they didn't look at the whole picture. We know what Wallace did before Temple. We also know that you can win at UNA, I'm not afraid to say none of us know what you can do at the schools Held was a head coach at. He may have done the best anyone could do? He may have done worse. I do know our offense has been light years better since he came. And from watching him on the sidelines interacting with Campbell and I could tell that he wasn't happy with him. So he probably isn't coming back next year. Anyway, was just trying to make non emotional conversation.
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Post by unafied on Nov 15, 2022 11:29:26 GMT -6
He’d won three national titles before Temple. Held has barely has any winning seasons at all as a head coach. But, it would be par for the course for UNA to walk down the hall and make another lazy hire. That's not what I'm saying... I'm saying what if they didn't look at the whole picture. We know what Wallace did before Temple. We also know that you can win at UNA, I'm not afraid to say none of us know what you can do at the schools Held was a head coach at. He may have done the best anyone could do? He may have done worse. I do know our offense has been light years better since he came. And from watching him on the sidelines interacting with Campbell and I could tell that he wasn't happy with him. So he probably isn't coming back next year. Anyway, was just trying to make non emotional conversation. Brandon, I agree that past performance doesn't necessarily mean a guy will fail. And I think if we were coming off several years of making the playoffs, Held would be a safe hire. I would've probably been fine with the Willis hire if we had been staying D2. I was upset at the time because, we were heading into what was sure to be a rough transition with a guy who had never been a head coach. There are times for "safe" hires, but there's times when you have to try something new. I think both 7 years ago, and now, are times you have to try something new. And to your point about how we know a coach can win at UNA... I'd say that's true, against D2 competition. So far we're a terrible FCS program. We DON'T yet know if we can win in FCS. That's why I think you have to go out and either find someone with a PROVEN record, or someone that shows so much promise that it's worth a chance. Held just doesn't fit either category for me. It's ok to be emotional. This fan base needs some emotion, good or bad.
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Post by unalions on Nov 15, 2022 11:57:53 GMT -6
I've said it several times already, but if all of this is a money thing, WE SHOULD NOT HAVE LEFT D2. Meanwhile in the WAC... UTRGV is budgeting around $700,000 for football salaries this fiscal year which will increase to just over $1.5 million in the following year as the staff expands to full operational capacity. This coaching salary budget should be highly competitive at the FCS level — fellow WAC member SFA spends roughly $485,000 on their head coach and coordinator salaries, so UTRGV’s budget puts them at around a 45% increase over the top program in their conference. SFA’s overall football coaching salary expense in 2021 was $1,144,811, so UTRGV’s full staff salary of around $1.5 million represents just under a 40% increase. www.underdogdynasty.com/2022/11/14/23457484/utrgv-vaqueros-football-program-head-coach-salary-budget-heb-park-stadium-edinburg
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