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Post by unafied on Jan 13, 2019 13:17:32 GMT -6
Other than the POD, y'all are discussing things that UNA fans have been debating online for at least 10 years. Also, I was told by a very reliable source, that the Athletic Department was in favor of a name change for the band. I don’t disagree, but I think the marketing aspect is certainly different this year than at any other time in the school’s history, and that makes it worth discussing. Should it be easier to get students to come out to the games, invest emotionally, etc.? I feel like it should. Obviously it may take time, and better teams. But to be fair to the University, I’m sure there’s a learning curve in how these programs need to be promoted. As for talking about the continuing oppression of the color gold - yeah, we’re beating a dead horse a bit on that. Though I’d rather keep the discussion going if it means preventing the complete removal of it.
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Post by lions09 on Jan 13, 2019 15:05:58 GMT -6
I wonder if it's almost a losing battle on trying to get students at games. Many kids these days have so many options of how/where to spend their time that they simply have no interest in college sports. Those that do are very focused on the SEC. I almost think we should focus on alumni. There are thousands more alumni than the amount of students on campus that now have "memories of college". Some of these kids have only been in school for a few months. We have connections to UNA for years and years.
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NJIT
Jan 13, 2019 15:57:16 GMT -6
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Post by brandon on Jan 13, 2019 15:57:16 GMT -6
I wonder if it's almost a losing battle on trying to get students at games. Many kids these days have so many options of how/where to spend their time that they simply have no interest in college sports. Those that do are very focused on the SEC. I almost think we should focus on alumni. There are thousands more alumni than the amount of students on campus that now have "memories of college". Some of these kids have only been in school for a few months. We have connections to UNA for years and years. I understand that, but I think a better campus "spirit" would do wonders. I'm not saying you can get 100% of them to attend, but a handful at a basketball game, that's just laziness on the University. Give me some time, I have a few options I can explore to help get students more involved.
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Jan 13, 2019 19:22:52 GMT -6
Post by unafied on Jan 13, 2019 19:22:52 GMT -6
Since we’ve been talking about it...
Not saying it can’t be better (obviously it can), but seems Coach is appreciative of the students who HAVE shown up.
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Jan 13, 2019 19:35:56 GMT -6
Post by unalions on Jan 13, 2019 19:35:56 GMT -6
Yes, there are a few that show up regularly and they are great!
Another idea is requiring attendance. Sounds crazy to the athletics world but it's the norm in some departments on campus - particularly music. Students are required to take a "Recital/Concert Attendance" class that the only requirement is attending a certain number of events, recitals, performances, etc. The requirement for majors is 10 per semester/minors is 5 per semester. This is on top of their own rehearsals and performances. Part of a performer's development is performing in front of people. The department has to require folks to show up or very few would.
I'm not saying the entire student body has time to show up to stuff but requiring students taking whatever the initial orientation class is to attend a certain amount of campus events (in all departments but possibly stipulating a certain portion being sports). Just a thought. I wonder if the student-athletes are required to attend games of other sports?
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NJIT
Jan 13, 2019 20:03:02 GMT -6
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Post by brandon on Jan 13, 2019 20:03:02 GMT -6
I say offer incentives to show up... have a different deal every game. Why does the Greeks not get involved like they do at most schools?
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Jan 13, 2019 20:05:42 GMT -6
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Post by brandon on Jan 13, 2019 20:05:42 GMT -6
Since we’ve been talking about it... Not saying it can’t be better (obviously it can), but seems Coach is appreciative of the students who HAVE shown up. He seems to be the only one willing to personally approach the students and try to put out positive energy.
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Jan 13, 2019 20:14:52 GMT -6
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Post by tuna85 on Jan 13, 2019 20:14:52 GMT -6
I wonder if it's almost a losing battle on trying to get students at games. Many kids these days have so many options of how/where to spend their time that they simply have no interest in college sports. Those that do are very focused on the SEC. I almost think we should focus on alumni. There are thousands more alumni than the amount of students on campus that now have "memories of college". Some of these kids have only been in school for a few months. We have connections to UNA for years and years. Need to keep trying to get students to the games. They will be the foundation of your future alumni base.
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Jan 13, 2019 20:17:25 GMT -6
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Post by tuna85 on Jan 13, 2019 20:17:25 GMT -6
Yes, there are a few that show up regularly and they are great! Another idea is requiring attendance. Sounds crazy to the athletics world but it's the norm in some departments on campus - particularly music. Students are required to take a "Recital/Concert Attendance" class that the only requirement is attending a certain number of events, recitals, performances, etc. The requirement for majors is 10 per semester/minors is 5 per semester. This is on top of their own rehearsals and performances. Part of a performer's development is performing in front of people. The department has to require folks to show up or very few would. I'm not saying the entire student body has time to show up to stuff but requiring students taking whatever the initial orientation class is to attend a certain amount of campus events (in all departments but possibly stipulating a certain portion being sports). Just a thought. I wonder if the student-athletes are required to attend games of other sports? I could be wrong but, I think requiring attendance to athletic events would be a big turn off.
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Jan 13, 2019 20:24:04 GMT -6
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Post by tuna85 on Jan 13, 2019 20:24:04 GMT -6
Since we discussed attendance after the FGCU games, I looked up the box scores for yesterday... Women: 983 Men: 908 I really hoped we’d break 1000. I suppose the rain may have kept some folks home. It’s always interesting to see the women outdraw the men. I can’t say I’m happy since I’d like to see more at both games, but I’m glad people are realizing that women’s basketball can be a lot of fun to watch. I didn’t used to think so, but this team changed my mind last year. I know a lot of people left after the womens game, but peaple were also coming in after the womens game, so I dont understand the difference. Also, I had some pretty interesting conversations at the game that has shed some light on a few issues we have been talking about on here in different capacities. 1- Marketing, I actually talked to a faculty member, what he said was eye opening. He said that being on campus almost every day, he never had any idea that any game in any sport is going on at a givin time, and the only reason he was there yesterday was because he just happened to be listening to an interview with Pujols on the Boomo Bug show. He also has heard from students that not only are they (for the most part) not informed about a lot of games on campus, but are often encouraged by professors not to attend or support the athletics programs. My wife said that she remembers anti athletic talk when she was there. But the main thing is, there is not much campus involvement to encourage students to show up to games. 2- Purple and Gold, a other person was talking about the lack of gold. We got in that conversation and he said that he remembered specifically in the early 90's about talks to do away with Gold all together. Reason, so many UNA fans are also Alabama or Auburn fans, and they have (at that time) asked the university to reconsider the colors because it looked too much like LSU, and they would not be buying anything that looked like LSU. The dumbest thing I have ever heard, but I seem to think that may have a lot to do with it unfortunately. 3- Pide of Dixie? The same faculty member, an African American man, got into a conversation about the band dropping Dixie. He dont even like it. The conversation covered more than that, and it was a very civil conversation. His first comment was, and I'm not making this up, "Hell, I cant even watch my favorite TV show anymore." I asked him what his favorite show was, "The Dukes of Hazzard" he said he understands peaple not wanting to see the Stars and Bars, but he does not understand the issue with the word Dixie. He said, I dont pretend to be the most educated man in the world, but he always associated Dixie as geography only. In reference to the professors found in bullet point 1: talk about cutting off one's nose to spite one's face. Athletics can be a rallying point to encourage enrollment which could result in better benefits for the professor. For examples, I give you Alabama and Auburn in the 60's versus today.
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Jan 13, 2019 20:37:24 GMT -6
Post by unafied on Jan 13, 2019 20:37:24 GMT -6
Yes, there are a few that show up regularly and they are great! Another idea is requiring attendance. Sounds crazy to the athletics world but it's the norm in some departments on campus - particularly music. Students are required to take a "Recital/Concert Attendance" class that the only requirement is attending a certain number of events, recitals, performances, etc. The requirement for majors is 10 per semester/minors is 5 per semester. This is on top of their own rehearsals and performances. Part of a performer's development is performing in front of people. The department has to require folks to show up or very few would. I'm not saying the entire student body has time to show up to stuff but requiring students taking whatever the initial orientation class is to attend a certain amount of campus events (in all departments but possibly stipulating a certain portion being sports). Just a thought. I wonder if the student-athletes are required to attend games of other sports? There are always certain classes that freshmen are required to take. I’m not sure how to approach it, since I realize that some people just won’t ever care about sports and it might not be right to MAKE them go, but... maybe something could be worked out there. If you can get them to have some school spirit early on like that it will be more likely to stick with them.
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