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Post by unafied on Feb 8, 2020 14:16:47 GMT -6
All of the hypotheticals exhaust me. LOL. I hear word that Alabama A&M and Alabama State are on the list of schools being considered for the UAC. I think I enjoy it more than any reasonable person should, ha.
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Post by brandon on Feb 8, 2020 16:54:42 GMT -6
All of the hypotheticals exhaust me. LOL. I hear word that Alabama A&M and Alabama State are on the list of schools being considered for the UAC. First off, don't take this as an argument about what you are hearing, I just cant figure out how to put into text what i am saying without it sounding like i am arguing. I just dont see A&M and Alabama State leaving the SWAC. I could be wrong. They have too many ties to the schools in their conference. Not to mention the SWAC seems to be extremely stable unlike the MEAC. But, lets say that does happen. Would this also include Tenn State? Could the bulk of the conference be UNA KSU JSU A&M ASTATE Tennessee State? If so, I really don't see any other schools that we considered to be targets joining. I dont think Chattanooga would do it especially. Hope I'm wrong.
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Post by lions09 on Feb 8, 2020 17:04:38 GMT -6
All of the hypotheticals exhaust me. LOL. I hear word that Alabama A&M and Alabama State are on the list of schools being considered for the UAC. First off, don't take this as an argument about what you are hearing, I just cant figure out how to put into text what i am saying without it sounding like i am arguing. I just dont see A&M and Alabama State leaving the SWAC. I could be wrong. They have too many ties to the schools in their conference. Not to mention the SWAC seems to be extremely stable unlike the MEAC. But, lets say that does happen. Would this also include Tenn State? Could the bulk of the conference be UNA KSU JSU A&M ASTATE Tennessee State? If so, I really don't see any other schools that we considered to be targets joining. I dont think Chattanooga would do it especially. Hope I'm wrong. Maybe that want to be playoff eligible in FCS.
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Post by brandon on Feb 8, 2020 17:57:16 GMT -6
Maybe.
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Post by northalaspectator on Feb 8, 2020 19:43:54 GMT -6
If the two SWAC schools I’m thinking more with this combination:
1. Kennesaw State 2. North Alabama 3. Jacksonville State 4. UT-Chattanooga 5. Alabama State 6. Alabama A&M 7. Tennessee State 8. Murray State
In terms of rivalry a great combination of teams. No school is more than 400 miles apart. Most schools are 300 miles are less apart.
Murray State seems wanting into the MVC, but it doesn’t look like they will get an invite. They have a great tradition in basketball. To me with Tennessee State and Murray State would be a better fit than those Louisiana Schools and the mileage is a lot less.
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Post by brandon on Feb 8, 2020 23:36:01 GMT -6
If the two SWAC schools I’m thinking more with this combination: 1. Kennesaw State 2. North Alabama 3. Jacksonville State 4. UT-Chattanooga 5. Alabama State 6. Alabama A&M 7. Tennessee State 8. Murray State In terms of rivalry a great combination of teams. No school is more than 400 miles apart. Most schools are 300 miles are less apart. Murray State seems wanting into the MVC, but it doesn’t look like they will get an invite. They have a great tradition in basketball. To me with Tennessee State and Murray State would be a better fit than those Louisiana Schools and the mileage is a lot less. I agree geographically, they fit great. But let's be real, (and from UNA prospective, its great) after what happened this year with A&M, do you think that's really going to happen? I know, nothing really happened, but do you think UNA would be willing to be in a conference, with someone, that accused them of what they accused them of? I would love to have a close rivalry in a conference, along with our most historic rival in JSU, plus potential rivals in Chattanooga, State and KSU in the same conference, but what are the chances? Not to mention, if Murray dont join, basketball would suck worse than any other conference. That's a huge deal in conference politics. There is going to have to be 2 or 3 schools that can carry the flag in basketball. FCS football dont get the conference money.....
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Post by bulldog247 on Feb 11, 2020 9:08:19 GMT -6
First off, don't take this as an argument about what you are hearing, I just cant figure out how to put into text what i am saying without it sounding like i am arguing. I just dont see A&M and Alabama State leaving the SWAC. I could be wrong. They have too many ties to the schools in their conference. Not to mention the SWAC seems to be extremely stable unlike the MEAC. But, lets say that does happen. Would this also include Tenn State? Could the bulk of the conference be UNA KSU JSU A&M ASTATE Tennessee State? If so, I really don't see any other schools that we considered to be targets joining. I dont think Chattanooga would do it especially. Hope I'm wrong. Maybe that want to be playoff eligible in FCS.
Hello Lions! This is my first post here, I come in peace. Some very interesting info! I'd like to include a few pointers.
- A&M and Alabama State are basically outcasts in the SWAC. The SWAC's core is in Louisiana, Mississippi and Texas, mainly Grambling, Southern, Alcorn, MVSU, Jackson State & Prairie View.
- As I understand, there could be some mending of last year's unfortunate incidents/fallout. Our current head coach is pro-FCS playoffs, and is one of the only ones in the SWAC who wants to compete at that level. He is also in favor of the Celebration Bowl, but not so much that he's anti-playoffs. He's mentioned on multiple occasions that his goal is to position us for the playoffs if we don't win the conference title. Our non-conference strategy is to play more FCS teams outside of the SWAC.
I love the idea of the UAC in general, whether we are included or not.
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Post by brandon on Feb 11, 2020 10:29:47 GMT -6
Maybe that want to be playoff eligible in FCS.
Hello Lions! This is my first post here, I come in peace. Some very interesting info! I'd like to include a few pointers.
- A&M and Alabama State are basically outcasts in the SWAC. The SWAC's core is in Louisiana, Mississippi and Texas, mainly Grambling, Southern, Alcorn, MVSU, Jackson State & Prairie View.
- As I understand, there could be some mending of last year's unfortunate incidents/fallout. Our current head coach is pro-FCS playoffs, and is one of the only ones in the SWAC who wants to compete at that level. He is also in favor of the Celebration Bowl, but not so much that he's anti-playoffs. He's mentioned on multiple occasions that his goal is to position us for the playoffs if we don't win the conference title. Our non-conference strategy is to play more FCS teams outside of the SWAC.
I love the idea of the UAC in general, whether we are included or not.
Thanks for the info. Yall are welcome anytime to our boards.
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Post by tuna85 on Feb 11, 2020 10:44:12 GMT -6
Maybe that want to be playoff eligible in FCS.
Hello Lions! This is my first post here, I come in peace. Some very interesting info! I'd like to include a few pointers.
- A&M and Alabama State are basically outcasts in the SWAC. The SWAC's core is in Louisiana, Mississippi and Texas, mainly Grambling, Southern, Alcorn, MVSU, Jackson State & Prairie View.
- As I understand, there could be some mending of last year's unfortunate incidents/fallout. Our current head coach is pro-FCS playoffs, and is one of the only ones in the SWAC who wants to compete at that level. He is also in favor of the Celebration Bowl, but not so much that he's anti-playoffs. He's mentioned on multiple occasions that his goal is to position us for the playoffs if we don't win the conference title. Our non-conference strategy is to play more FCS teams outside of the SWAC.
I love the idea of the UAC in general, whether we are included or not.
Peace to you also. Last year's incidents were unfortunate but I tend to think they were also an anomaly. It's good to understand the SWAC dynamic. For my own part, I don't have a clue how this ASun football members of ASun/Big South/UAC thing will work out. I do want a stable conference and I do want strong competitive teams in it that are regionally nearby. There are teams in several conferences, nearby, such as A&M, ASU, and JSU that do not fully feel a part of their current conference. It will take these teams to make a UAC/TBD happen. If it comes about I hope A&M and UNA are a part of it. There are strong 💪 teams out there, in this region, to make such a conference top three in the FCS from the get go.
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Post by unafied on Feb 11, 2020 13:30:27 GMT -6
Maybe that want to be playoff eligible in FCS.
Hello Lions! This is my first post here, I come in peace. Some very interesting info! I'd like to include a few pointers.
- A&M and Alabama State are basically outcasts in the SWAC. The SWAC's core is in Louisiana, Mississippi and Texas, mainly Grambling, Southern, Alcorn, MVSU, Jackson State & Prairie View.
- As I understand, there could be some mending of last year's unfortunate incidents/fallout. Our current head coach is pro-FCS playoffs, and is one of the only ones in the SWAC who wants to compete at that level. He is also in favor of the Celebration Bowl, but not so much that he's anti-playoffs. He's mentioned on multiple occasions that his goal is to position us for the playoffs if we don't win the conference title. Our non-conference strategy is to play more FCS teams outside of the SWAC.
I love the idea of the UAC in general, whether we are included or not.
Glad to have you here. Speaking for myself, I would love to continue to play A&M as often as possible. I think it could be a great rivalry and lift both teams up. Imagine playing in the same conference some day, playing the last weekend of the season, to decide a UAC conference title. I'm sure in that scenario either one of our stadiums would be filled to capacity. No reason that same enthusiasm couldn't carry over to other sports, as well. I think if A&M, State, and JSU will all jump on board with this UAC plan, it has a good chance of happening.
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Post by unalions on Feb 11, 2020 14:54:25 GMT -6
Welcome to the board bulldog247! I'm glad you came to chat about this topic. It totally makes sense to me that A&M and Bama State would be interested in pursuing something different - especially in relation to becoming playoff eligible. I recall when Tuskegee did the same in D2 by forgoing the Turkey Day Classic with ASU to pursue the NCAA playoffs and they've made it several times since that decision.
Speaking of D2, this is for anyone on this thread, is the number of teams to have an FCS Automatic Qualifier 7 teams or 8 teams? If it's 7, I could see the possibility of one D2 being enticed to reclassify and join the UAC. Selfishly, I'd love it to be UWF since I live in Pensacola - but they'd have a lot of facility upgrades to make.
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Post by unafied on Feb 11, 2020 17:00:48 GMT -6
Welcome to the board bulldog247! I'm glad you came to chat about this topic. It totally makes sense to me that A&M and Bama State would be interested in pursuing something different - especially in relation to becoming playoff eligible. I recall when Tuskegee did the same in D2 by forgoing the Turkey Day Classic with ASU to pursue the NCAA playoffs and they've made it several times since that decision. Speaking of D2, this is for anyone on this thread, is the number of teams to have an FCS Automatic Qualifier 7 teams or 8 teams? If it's 7, I could see the possibility of one D2 being enticed to reclassify and join the UAC. Selfishly, I'd love it to be UWF since I live in Pensacola - but they'd have a lot of facility upgrades to make. I actually think it could be as little as 6. The year before we joined the Big South they had Kennesaw, Monmouth, Charleston Southern, Gardner-Webb, Presbyterian, and I believe Liberty in their last year of FCS. Now maybe they had some sort of grandfather clause that allowed them to have a bid to the playoffs with just 6, but nonetheless, that was their lineup. It would be interesting if the UAC locks in 7 and then pulls someone from D2. I’m pretty sure UWF would go if given the chance. Would West Georgia and Valdosta stick to their guns and stay D2? Or would all 3 be fighting it out over the one spot? That would be something. I’d honestly take any of the 3.
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Post by brandon on Feb 11, 2020 18:21:25 GMT -6
Welcome to the board bulldog247! I'm glad you came to chat about this topic. It totally makes sense to me that A&M and Bama State would be interested in pursuing something different - especially in relation to becoming playoff eligible. I recall when Tuskegee did the same in D2 by forgoing the Turkey Day Classic with ASU to pursue the NCAA playoffs and they've made it several times since that decision. Speaking of D2, this is for anyone on this thread, is the number of teams to have an FCS Automatic Qualifier 7 teams or 8 teams? If it's 7, I could see the possibility of one D2 being enticed to reclassify and join the UAC. Selfishly, I'd love it to be UWF since I live in Pensacola - but they'd have a lot of facility upgrades to make. I actually think it could be as little as 6. The year before we joined the Big South they had Kennesaw, Monmouth, Charleston Southern, Gardner-Webb, Presbyterian, and I believe Liberty in their last year of FCS. Now maybe they had some sort of grandfather clause that allowed them to have a bid to the playoffs with just 6, but nonetheless, that was their lineup. It would be interesting if the UAC locks in 7 and then pulls someone from D2. I’m pretty sure UWF would go if given the chance. Would West Georgia and Valdosta stick to their guns and stay D2? Or would all 3 be fighting it out over the one spot? That would be something. I’d honestly take any of the 3. When a conference gets to 6, they have a couple of years they still maintain AQ status, they have to replace the 7th in that time or they lose AQ status. I'm not sure on the amount of years. If the UAC gets 7 current FCS schools, the 8th can be a transitional school. As far as the three fighting it out, Valdosta has said no to moving to D1 numerous times, last I heard about UWG is they aren't financially ready. UWF would be the best choice. UWF would provide the rest of the conference with fertile recruiting grounds and an opportunity to sell their other recruits on getting to visit one of the best beach areas in the world, regularly.
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Post by brandon on Feb 13, 2020 20:59:02 GMT -6
Just hypothetically, because we dont know if the UAC will happen or not, if you could name the conference, what would it be? Keep it the UAC or change it?
I dont mind the UAC, but a couple of names came to mind.
Southern 8 Southern Sun Conference (keeping a little from the ASUN, and it would coincided with the partnership aspect)
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Post by brandon on Mar 19, 2020 21:03:18 GMT -6
Been notified that Gumbart and some ADs have been in discussions for media deals if the UAC deal goes through.
Was told that the ASUN(12) and the UAC(8) would share media opportunities and sponsorships.
Supposedly, having more markets (20) is more attractive for sponsors and media deals.
If whatever deals come to fruition, it will supposedly make or break the whole ASUN(12) and UAC(8).
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