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Post by unafied on Nov 17, 2017 9:15:42 GMT -6
I was reading the TimesDaily's writeup of last night's basketball game on their website, and noticed that the uniforms looked to be gray, with purple and white trim. On a second run through the pictures, it appears the white trim is actually a pale gold, but the dominant colors on the uniform are gray and purple. Not a bad look, really, but there's no reason to use gray. I went to roarlions.com to see more pictures. A slideshow there shows our women's team wearing a purple/white uni (no gold), our soccer team wearing purple and white with some black trim (no gold), and a volleyball player wearing white with purple trim (no gold). While I really liked the football uniforms we wore this season, including the throwback helmet, they barely have any gold at all - though at least there is some. That throwback helmet was particularly noticeable, since I'm pretty sure that helmet back in the 80s was yellow gold with a purple lion.
Not sports-related, but if anybody has read the recent story about new street signs going up on campus, you'll know that they are purple with white letters.
This has been touched on over at the D2 forum, but I thought it's time to have a discussion here. I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I don't know if this is a "money-saving" idea somehow, or that someone in the athletic department doesn't like gold and is trying their best to keep it off the unis. Maybe the players don't like it. Either way, it's obvious our uniforms are featuring purple and white much more prominently these days, and I really don't like it.
In the grand scheme this is a minor thing. However, I am very much a traditionalist. Purple and gold is such a great color combo. I want to see it return.
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Post by brandon on Nov 17, 2017 9:51:03 GMT -6
I have been saying this for years. If we all email the AD and President, make our complaints known, maybe we can at least get a good explanation.
As for money, I have done some research, come to find out, it cost no more money for gold than any other color.
Baseball has had a gold top as one of their combos for a few years now. They seem to like having gold in their uniforms
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Post by unafied on Feb 2, 2018 11:31:27 GMT -6
Hate to beat the drum again if only the two of us care, but just more evidence that gold is a scarce commodity around our athletics department right now. Gray seems to be more preferred, if you go by the baseball and basketball teams. Well, except for softball, where they basically substitute black for gray. Edit to add: I've watched baseball all my life, so I know the away unis are gray. Still seems they could sneak in gold somewhere other than one measly pant stripe on the home pants.
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Post by brandon on Feb 2, 2018 15:04:39 GMT -6
Hate to beat the drum again if only the two of us care, but just more evidence that gold is a scarce commodity around our athletics department right now. Gray seems to be more preferred, if you go by the baseball and basketball teams. Well, except for softball, where they basically substitute black for gray. Edit to add: I've watched baseball all my life, so I know the away unis are gray. Still seems they could sneak in gold somewhere other than one measly pant stripe on the home pants.
I have emailed about this, per AD, he leaves it up to the individual coach and what they prefer. Also stated that they could not find were Gold is an official color. I say mandate that Gold has to be used, to at least outlines, and make it official. It does not cost any more, I have checked.
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Post by unafied on Feb 2, 2018 16:39:41 GMT -6
I have emailed about this, per AD, he leaves it up to the individual coach and what they prefer. Also stated that they could not find were Gold is an official color. I say mandate that Gold has to be used, to at least outlines, and make it official. It does not cost any more, I have checked. He really said that? I mean, if 100 years of that being the school colors isn’t enough, I’d show him this page, which shows that we DO have an official Pantone color for “UNA Gold”: www.una.edu/brand/guidelines/colors.html. Of course, unfortunately that page also has a “UNA Grey”. I have no idea how recent of an addition that is. And its it’s not even that purple and grey look bad together. I don’t think they do. But we’ve, you know, never worn that at any time in our history (that I’m aware of). Why start now? I know a few years ago there was a trend in D1 schools to come out with grey alternate unis, but I think that fad has faded. So if we’re doing it to be “cool”, we’re already behind the times. And if we’re doing for some stupid reason like “the grey fabric is cheaper”, a theory I’ve seen floated elsewhere, that’s infuriating. If we can’t spend money for gold fabric we damn sure don’t need to be transitioning to D1. Maybe its irrational for for me to be so upset over what is probably a minor issue in the grand scheme of things. I don’t know.
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Post by brandon on Feb 2, 2018 16:49:20 GMT -6
I don't mind the grey, but use the gold in ALL uniforms in some way. I agree, purple is the main color, gold should be the strongest accent color. Even if we have grey uniforms, use the gold with it.
Also, the uniforms and logos should be set, a certain pattern with the same logos across the board.
I don't dislike any of the uniforms since the change, but the word uniform has a meaning, should be across the board.
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Post by northalaspectator on Feb 2, 2018 20:23:47 GMT -6
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Post by brandon on Feb 2, 2018 22:47:09 GMT -6
I think a group of us needs to present this and ask why they are going against the standard. The UNA in a diagonal line like on the pants of the football uniforms and the hats of baseball is not in the logo part. Basketball is totally different, and let's get into softball, nothing the same. I know it's seems like stupid stuff to complain about, but it's stuff like that that makes you look like one unit. Some things should be standard, and a tradition.
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Post by catscratchfever4 on Feb 9, 2018 23:47:02 GMT -6
Hate to beat the drum again if only the two of us care, but just more evidence that gold is a scarce commodity around our athletics department right now. Gray seems to be more preferred, if you go by the baseball and basketball teams. Well, except for softball, where they basically substitute black for gray. Edit to add: I've watched baseball all my life, so I know the away unis are gray. Still seems they could sneak in gold somewhere other than one measly pant stripe on the home pants.
I noticed they've changed the street signs In Florence to purple and white. I just thought how much better purple and GOLD would be. We need to put on a social media push to wear GOLD shirts to all UNA events. If we got enough support, we could have gold shirts with purple lettering made stating THESE colors will NEVER die!
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Post by unafied on Feb 10, 2018 9:38:01 GMT -6
Oh man, I don’t remember if I ever posted about the street signs, but I was pretty upset the lettering was white. I’ll concede that yellow/gold lettering *might* be against some sort of DOT standard or what have you. But if you’re already making the sign purple instead of green, it sounds like there’s some flexibility.
Spectator, thanks for linking the graphic standards. Lots of interesting stuff in there. For example, the UNA Gold as listed is signifanctly more yellow than the “old gold” shown under athletic logos. That’s another issue I have. I don’t necessarily favor one over the other, but why the difference? I tend to think the old gold looks better. But heck, go to shopunalions.com and see if any of the merchandise is gold. Nope. Anything “gold” is actually yellow.
I’m not a marketing guy, and I know we aren’t the only school where this happens. It just seems like it would be easy to fix. Shouldn’t our “brand” be consistent if we are trying to introduce ourselves to a lot of people that may have never followed D2 sports? Heck, if you see a picture of our softball team, we look more like Northwestern or maybe TCU than anyone else.
One last thing. In the graphic standards document there is a section for retired logos. Am I the only one who loved the “N” with the script “Alabama” across it? Maybe a little difficult for the casual fan to get it, but that’s a great logo. Maybe we’ll see it on a throwback sometime. I also LOVE the leaping lion (see my avatar). Hope we keep it around.
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Post by brandon on Feb 10, 2018 11:06:55 GMT -6
Oh man, I don’t remember if I ever posted about the street signs, but I was pretty upset the lettering was white. I’ll concede that yellow/gold lettering *might* be against some sort of DOT standard or what have you. But if you’re already making the sign purple instead of green, it sounds like there’s some flexibility. Spectator, thanks for linking the graphic standards. Lots of interesting stuff in there. For example, the UNA Gold as listed is signifanctly more yellow than the “old gold” shown under athletic logos. That’s another issue I have. I don’t necessarily favor one over the other, but why the difference? I tend to think the old gold looks better. But heck, go to shopunalions.com and see if any of the merchandise is gold. Nope. Anything “gold” is actually yellow. I’m not a marketing guy, and I know we aren’t the only school where this happens. It just seems like it would be easy to fix. Shouldn’t our “brand” be consistent if we are trying to introduce ourselves to a lot of people that may have never followed D2 sports? Heck, if you see a picture of our softball team, we look more like Northwestern or maybe TCU than anyone else. One last thing. In the graphic standards document there is a section for retired logos. Am I the only one who loved the “N” with the script “Alabama” across it? Maybe a little difficult for the casual fan to get it, but that’s a great logo. Maybe we’ll see it on a throwback sometime. I also LOVE the leaping lion (see my avatar). Hope we keep it around. As a firefighter, I understand why the letters on the signs are white. It helps stand out so emergency personnel can see street names better. They should also be reflective letters. Like I said before, I like the use of Gold as an accent to the purple. It does not need to be overused, but it needs to be in ALL uniforms. As far as grey and black, pick one and use it. The grey LION logo on the purple tops for baseball would look great outlined in gold. Can't do nothing about it till they buy new uniforms, but If enough people email the AD about it, it will be changed. And let's be more honest, if more people would show up to ALL sports games, on a regular basis, the AD will start listening to the fans concerns more. And yes, I liked the N with script Alabama across it. And also hope they keep the Lion helmet. (But would have liked it on a Gold helmet even more.) That would give you 1 purple, 1 white, and 1 Gold helmet.
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Post by unafied on Feb 10, 2018 14:59:56 GMT -6
Oh man, I don’t remember if I ever posted about the street signs, but I was pretty upset the lettering was white. I’ll concede that yellow/gold lettering *might* be against some sort of DOT standard or what have you. But if you’re already making the sign purple instead of green, it sounds like there’s some flexibility. Spectator, thanks for linking the graphic standards. Lots of interesting stuff in there. For example, the UNA Gold as listed is signifanctly more yellow than the “old gold” shown under athletic logos. That’s another issue I have. I don’t necessarily favor one over the other, but why the difference? I tend to think the old gold looks better. But heck, go to shopunalions.com and see if any of the merchandise is gold. Nope. Anything “gold” is actually yellow. I’m not a marketing guy, and I know we aren’t the only school where this happens. It just seems like it would be easy to fix. Shouldn’t our “brand” be consistent if we are trying to introduce ourselves to a lot of people that may have never followed D2 sports? Heck, if you see a picture of our softball team, we look more like Northwestern or maybe TCU than anyone else. One last thing. In the graphic standards document there is a section for retired logos. Am I the only one who loved the “N” with the script “Alabama” across it? Maybe a little difficult for the casual fan to get it, but that’s a great logo. Maybe we’ll see it on a throwback sometime. I also LOVE the leaping lion (see my avatar). Hope we keep it around. As a firefighter, I understand why the letters on the signs are white. It helps stand out so emergency personnel can see street names better. They should also be reflective letters. Like I said before, I like the use of Gold as an accent to the purple. It does not need to be overused, but it needs to be in ALL uniforms. As far as grey and black, pick one and use it. The grey LION logo on the purple tops for baseball would look great outlined in gold. Can't do nothing about it till they buy new uniforms, but If enough people email the AD about it, it will be changed. And let's be more honest, if more people would show up to ALL sports games, on a regular basis, the AD will start listening to the fans concerns more. And yes, I liked the N with script Alabama across it. And also hope they keep the Lion helmet. (But would have liked it on a Gold helmet even more.) That would give you 1 purple, 1 white, and 1 Gold helmet. Oh absolutely on the gold helmet. I’ve got a picture somewhere of Leo II as a cub, I suppose some kind of promotional shot from when they first got him. And he’s laying beside that “leaping lion” helmet, yellow gold of course. It would be a GREAT look still today, escpecially a metallic gold shell and purple lion.
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Post by catscratchfever4 on Feb 10, 2018 20:42:26 GMT -6
Oh man, I don’t remember if I ever posted about the street signs, but I was pretty upset the lettering was white. I’ll concede that yellow/gold lettering *might* be against some sort of DOT standard or what have you. But if you’re already making the sign purple instead of green, it sounds like there’s some flexibility. Spectator, thanks for linking the graphic standards. Lots of interesting stuff in there. For example, the UNA Gold as listed is signifanctly more yellow than the “old gold” shown under athletic logos. That’s another issue I have. I don’t necessarily favor one over the other, but why the difference? I tend to think the old gold looks better. But heck, go to shopunalions.com and see if any of the merchandise is gold. Nope. Anything “gold” is actually yellow. I’m not a marketing guy, and I know we aren’t the only school where this happens. It just seems like it would be easy to fix. Shouldn’t our “brand” be consistent if we are trying to introduce ourselves to a lot of people that may have never followed D2 sports? Heck, if you see a picture of our softball team, we look more like Northwestern or maybe TCU than anyone else. One last thing. In the graphic standards document there is a section for retired logos. Am I the only one who loved the “N” with the script “Alabama” across it? Maybe a little difficult for the casual fan to get it, but that’s a great logo. Maybe we’ll see it on a throwback sometime. I also LOVE the leaping lion (see my avatar). Hope we keep it around. Yellow gold. I much prefer it over the other shade of gold UNA used in the 70s. Year after year LSU's unis finish somewhere in the top 5 of best uniforms in college football. It's because that yellow gold just looks so darn good with white! The purple is the least attractive thing about them except when used as trim only. Have you ever noticed they wear what most consider to be the road unis (white shirts)for home games? It's because that white and GOLD look so darned good as the dominant colors. I read someone's post about some dufus at UNA saying purple and GOLD aren't UNA's colors. He had to be VERY young or a very old jackass. I've been hearing "the purple and GOLD" for almost 60 years and still do, even if some dumb bells want to overthrow so many decades of tradition. If this is the way they feel, hell let's just switch to red and green. We can all yell "red,red" for the defense to make a stop and "green, green" for the offense to go, go. Colors don't mean nothing so who cares.
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Post by tuna85 on Feb 13, 2018 10:16:48 GMT -6
For as long as I can remember, and that's quite a while, purple and gold have always been the primary colors. This was the case back in '74, before and after the school changed its name from Florence State University to the University of North Alabama. I think the color white is a given, at just about any school, as an accent color. Schools which use white as one of their primaries probably miss out on apparel sales as many like to have shirts, hats, etc of each primary color. Saying gold is not one of UNA's primary...well that's just fake news.
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Post by brandon on Feb 13, 2018 11:37:18 GMT -6
For as long as I can remember, and that's quite a while, purple and gold have always been the primary colors. This was the case back in '74, before and after the school changed its name from Florence State University to the University of North Alabama. I think the color white is a given, at just about any school, as an accent color. Schools which use white as one of their primaries probably miss out on apparel sales as many like to have shirts, hats, etc of each primary color. Saying gold is not one of UNA's primary...well that's just fake news. I say let's get everyone who cares to send emails to the President and AD and voice our complaints about the gold to them. Keep sending them until there is a change. I would also like to see ALL sports using the same Logos. I don't care if it's the Diagonal UNA like baseball uses, or the football helmet logo, an N with Alabama across it. Or a new logo. (Kinda like NOALA) but it needs to be the same. Makes marketing strategy easy.
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