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Post by brandon on May 9, 2024 13:59:06 GMT -6
I have no doubt the ASUN would take them as an affiliate. But if I were a Richmond fan, I'd probably have to ask why they want to give up histories with so many teams in the CAA to play several schools they have rarely (if ever) faced. I get that JMU and Delaware were their closest rivals and now they're gone, but still. Seems like the SoCon would be the more natural fit. I bet the SoCon would want them to join as full members though, and I doubt they'd leave the A-10 for what most view as a downgrade. They're obviously upset with the CAA and that can drive a school to make unexpected choices. That's the thing, richmonds rivals are gone with the exception of, guess who, William and Mary... the school that I suspect may come to the ASUN as a full member. As for the SoCon, I think the ASUN has a geographic advantage over the SoCon, Florida. That's where West Florida comes into play for football in my opinion. |
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Post by unalions on May 9, 2024 15:18:48 GMT -6
From D1.ticker: The Patriot League or Southern Conference could be potential football-only landing spots for Richmond should the Spiders decide to leave the CAA Football Conference, according to the Richmond Times-Dispatch’s John O’Connor. Asked about Richmond’s status on Thursday, CAA Commissioner Joe D’Antonio replied: “What decisions schools might be making for their own interests, those are questions you’d have to ask those schools. We’re going to continue to make decisions as a conference that are in the best interest of the conference to move the conference forward in creating both a sustainable and a competitive model, just as we’ve been making decisions over the last eight years since I’ve been commissioner.” Meanwhile, UR’s intentions remain opaque, according to O’Connor, who notes Spiders AD John Hardt has “publicly kept his own counsel” since remarking in December about the Spiders’ relationship with CAA Football: “To say that it's business as usual would not be an accurate statement right now. These days in college athletics, institutions really must be prepared for, and embrace, change. That's just the reality of (current) intercollegiate athletics at the DI level.” |
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Post by brandon on May 9, 2024 19:10:56 GMT -6
From D1.ticker: The Patriot League or Southern Conference could be potential football-only landing spots for Richmond should the Spiders decide to leave the CAA Football Conference, according to the Richmond Times-Dispatch’s John O’Connor. Asked about Richmond’s status on Thursday, CAA Commissioner Joe D’Antonio replied: “What decisions schools might be making for their own interests, those are questions you’d have to ask those schools. We’re going to continue to make decisions as a conference that are in the best interest of the conference to move the conference forward in creating both a sustainable and a competitive model, just as we’ve been making decisions over the last eight years since I’ve been commissioner.” Meanwhile, UR’s intentions remain opaque, according to O’Connor, who notes Spiders AD John Hardt has “publicly kept his own counsel” since remarking in December about the Spiders’ relationship with CAA Football: “To say that it's business as usual would not be an accurate statement right now. These days in college athletics, institutions really must be prepared for, and embrace, change. That's just the reality of (current) intercollegiate athletics at the DI level.” I guess we will see... |
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Post by ekusteve on May 9, 2024 19:14:42 GMT -6
From D1.ticker: The Patriot League or Southern Conference could be potential football-only landing spots for Richmond should the Spiders decide to leave the CAA Football Conference, according to the Richmond Times-Dispatch’s John O’Connor. Asked about Richmond’s status on Thursday, CAA Commissioner Joe D’Antonio replied: “What decisions schools might be making for their own interests, those are questions you’d have to ask those schools. We’re going to continue to make decisions as a conference that are in the best interest of the conference to move the conference forward in creating both a sustainable and a competitive model, just as we’ve been making decisions over the last eight years since I’ve been commissioner.” Meanwhile, UR’s intentions remain opaque, according to O’Connor, who notes Spiders AD John Hardt has “publicly kept his own counsel” since remarking in December about the Spiders’ relationship with CAA Football: “To say that it's business as usual would not be an accurate statement right now. These days in college athletics, institutions really must be prepared for, and embrace, change. That's just the reality of (current) intercollegiate athletics at the DI level.” I guess we will see... Exactly. The first line on where they might go is speculation on the reporter's part. |
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Post by brandon on May 9, 2024 21:19:27 GMT -6
Exactly. The first line on where they might go is speculation on the reporter's part. I'm not denying that those two conferences are historically where they would go... But Matt Brow said, "Don't be surprised if the ASUN pulls a CAA school." Tells me the ASUN is in a position to get them. Like I said before. He's not always right. But he wouldn't put it out there if there wasn't merit to it. |
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Post by unafied on May 10, 2024 6:12:29 GMT -6
I would love to pull some combination of Richmond/William & Mary/Elon, and then plug West Florida in at some point. Football would likely be set for a long time. I would have to think the SoCon would have the inside track here. Doesn't the Patriot League have a lower scholarship limit? Just seems like that would intentionally be taking a step back for a perennial playoff contender like Richmond.
But IF the ASUN can swoop in and take some teams, it would be a nice little coup.
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Post by brandon on May 23, 2024 12:31:52 GMT -6
Been thinking in my own little universe while trying to beat the rain today, would the ASUN not be better off pulling out all the stops by inviting West Florida and Valdosta, giving any incentive they can to them? We have moved HQ to Jacksonville. Probably going to have championships there.
Also should give incentives to both North Florida and Stetson to (a) add football and (b) add scholarships.
North Florida has gone on record saying its not if but when.
And I think Stetson should save or offset money by having football in the ASUN instead of a nationwide conference.
I think I like the idea of a legitimate ASUN football conference with
EKU
APSU
UCA
UNA
UWG
VSU
UWF
UNF
Stetson
14 all sports and 9 football. That's perfect in my opinion. It would also add to rivalries.
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Post by brandon on May 23, 2024 12:32:52 GMT -6
Speaking of Stetson, they are apparently doing a major renovation to their basketball arena... haven't seen what all they are doing but it sounds good.
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Post by ekusteve on May 23, 2024 13:38:52 GMT -6
Speaking of Stetson, they are apparently doing a major renovation to their basketball arena... haven't seen what all they are doing but it sounds good. EKU is redoing theirs as well. Volleyball will be in the Olympic Training Center. Basketball TBD until Jan. |
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Post by brandon on Jun 12, 2024 13:18:39 GMT -6
I think Coach Dearmon let the cat out of the bag today on the Boomo Bug show.
He was talking about SFA leaving, kinda threw shade at them, then said we would be OK because the ASUN will be getting West Florida and Valdosta St. He said it will be like the old days with UNA, West Georgia, Valdosta State, West Florida and Central Arkansas...
Let's hope nothing falls through.
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Post by unalions on Jun 12, 2024 15:26:13 GMT -6
I think Coach Dearmon let the cat out of the bag today on the Boomo Bug show. He was talking about SFA leaving, kinda threw shade at them, then said we would be OK because the ASUN will be getting West Florida and Valdosta St. He said it will be like the old days with UNA, West Georgia, Valdosta State, West Florida and Central Arkansas... Let's hope nothing falls through. Nice! I found it. His portion starts at about the 1:22:20 mark. At 1:24:00: "And I think there's possibly a courtship happening between one or two more old Gulf South teams." ... "But, I could see a Valdosta State or West Florida or one of those teams getting invited to move up to the FCS level here pretty soon." www.939thescore.com/boomo-bugg-show-061224/ |
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Post by roaringsince96 on Jun 12, 2024 15:44:46 GMT -6
Wonder if either school would accept the invite? The cost in this current state of the economy is no small endeavor. Our timing was very good for the D1 move. I get it when trying to add sports and pay the entrance fee plus the upgrades that are required. It is a lot to consider, although the good news for Valdosta State hopefuls is the man who apparently has been against going D1 is retiring at the end of June. So maybe? Or does that decision get postponed with new hire waiting a couple of years? West Florida seems happy in D2 from what their administration says? I wonder why they have been reluctant to pursue the move? Maybe this is the year? Also interesting on Auburn playing in state schools to help state keep tax money stay in state. While the state school Alabama plays smaller teams outside the state because of the fear of the loss?
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Post by unalions on Jun 12, 2024 16:08:37 GMT -6
Wonder if either school would accept the invite? The cost in this current state of the economy is no small endeavor. Our timing was very good for the D1 move. I get it when trying to add sports and pay the entrance fee plus the upgrades that are required. It is a lot to consider, although the good news for Valdosta State hopefuls is the man who apparently has been against going D1 is retiring at the end of June. So maybe? Or does that decision get postponed with new hire waiting a couple of years? West Florida seems happy in D2 from what their administration says? I wonder why they have been reluctant to pursue the move? Maybe this is the year? Also interesting on Auburn playing in state schools to help state keep tax money stay in state. While the state school Alabama plays smaller teams outside the state because of the fear of the loss? The GSC is dying football-wise and will only have five teams in 2025. I think that will play into the decisions. UWF is probably kicking themselves for waiting this long but football has been doing so well it's hard to run from that success and exposure. We'll see what they decide now that the conference is losing football teams. VSU? Who knows. |
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Post by unafied on Jun 13, 2024 7:37:18 GMT -6
UWF and Valdosta are stuck between a rock and a hard place. I get not wanting to move up in the current environment. But what kind of future do they have in D2? Unless there's a big restructuring where several FCS teams go back down (highly unlikely), I just don't see how their football teams can survive. Their place is with UNA and West Georgia. The longer they wait, the further behind they'll be.
At the rate we're going I'm wondering if D2 itself will even survive, or if it will eventually merge with D3. Maybe that's how the divisions will eventually shake out. The NCAA has one for scholarships, one for non-scholarship, and then the "Power Conferences" have their own thing. Maybe some cooperation on sports outside of football, but no guarantee.
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Post by brandon on Jun 13, 2024 9:07:10 GMT -6
I'm sure Dearmon wouldn't have mentioned it if a couple of things haven't happened, 1-it has been brought up to all officials in the ASUN for potential vote. 2- he's probably pretty sure it will happen.
The timeline is what I'm trying to figure. If both join, it would be hard on the ASUN for AQ by themselves without either adding another current FCS school or two either full or associates.
With what Matt Brown had said, I kinda feel like we may end up with a school or 2 from the CAA as well.
So West Florida and Valdosta, if both join, would probably be a couple of years apart. Or who knows, they may come together.
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