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Post by roaringsince96 on Dec 9, 2023 16:17:46 GMT -6
Shaping up nicely with powerhouses in FCS. North Dakota State, South Dakota State, and Montana are 3 of final four with Idaho and Albany deciding the fourth. North Dakota State playing at Montana should be a great game. Montana is a hard to place to win. North Dakota State is a hard team to win against. We got to land a few more players to compete against these guys. We got to change the trenches and linebacker position, running back position for sure.
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Post by ekusteve on Dec 10, 2023 14:59:23 GMT -6
This could shake things up.
Apparently heading to USC to be LB coach.
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Post by mtc13 on Dec 10, 2023 15:57:59 GMT -6
This could shake things up. Apparently heading to USC to be LB coach. Wow.
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Post by ekusteve on Dec 10, 2023 21:16:42 GMT -6
This could shake things up. Apparently heading to USC to be LB coach. Wow. He is staying until the playoffs are over.
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Post by unalions on Dec 11, 2023 18:35:13 GMT -6
He is staying until the playoffs are over. Lots of speculation on who his replacement will be. The schools says it will be filled quickly. So, most are expecting an internal hire.
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Post by roaringsince96 on Dec 15, 2023 22:04:10 GMT -6
59-0? Wow that stinks for UAlbany to get that close and just get porn slapped. Ouch
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Post by unafied on Dec 16, 2023 7:56:47 GMT -6
The Dakota teams and the top of the Big Sky just seem to be in another league from the rest of FCS. Let’s be honest, most of those teams would be very competitive at the G5 level of FBS. I might even take SDSU against Liberty.
I hope that we can get to that level eventually, but I don’t know. It won’t be easy.
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Post by brandon on Dec 16, 2023 9:36:46 GMT -6
The Dakota teams and the top of the Big Sky just seem to be in another league from the rest of FCS. Let’s be honest, most of those teams would be very competitive at the G5 level of FBS. I might even take SDSU against Liberty. I hope that we can get to that level eventually, but I don’t know. It won’t be easy. We can... to get to that level, you have to have a commitment from the top. It starts with the president and AD... the fact that Kitts has gotten us this far is, in my opinion, great. The Looney hire was great. He has proven to me that he wants to win. Now the top has to convince the rest of the stake holders that you have to pay to be competitive, they have already surpassed their goal in comparison with time on raising money for the stadium. The next step will be raising that athletic budget and I'm told that's coming soon. Remember, we just now started getting conference money. Another thing I was told, that took me a while to understand is, as a fan base, we have to decide what we want to be... that actually came from another AD not associated with UNA. He said, do you want to be a football school, basketball school, baseball, softball and so on? He said less than 1% can be multiple and guess what, it ain't us... now, we can be good at multiple, but what do we want to hang our hat on? That will determine a lot. Even the less than 1% have a hard time staying there.
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Post by unalions on Dec 16, 2023 11:30:15 GMT -6
The Dakota teams and the top of the Big Sky just seem to be in another league from the rest of FCS. Let’s be honest, most of those teams would be very competitive at the G5 level of FBS. I might even take SDSU against Liberty. I hope that we can get to that level eventually, but I don’t know. It won’t be easy. Money helps. Most of the top FCS schools have football budgets that are double or triple what UNA spends. SFA certainly didn’t do well last season but are an established FCS program. Can UNA really thrive when they spend so much less? Gotta figure that out. From 2021-22: (Football Budgets) Montana St- $8.43M Montana - $6.59M NDSU - $6.14M SFA - $5.82M UND - $5.39M ACU - $5.35M Big Sky - 5 more teams above $5M SDSU - $4.74M MVFC - 6 more teams above $4M UAC - 3 more teams above $4M UNA - $2.8M
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Post by unafied on Dec 16, 2023 12:10:22 GMT -6
Money is absolutely important. To that point, I just saw that the Colorado State coach was upset because his “top 12 players” have all been offered by other schools. Combine that with this week’s rulings that the NCAA can’t make players sit out on their second transfer, and I just… I don’t know where this is all going. I understand it’s “good” for the players to have freedom to play where they want. But if we continue on the path we’re on, I fear the entire sport will collapse from fans just absolutely giving up on it. And at that point the players won’t be making ANY money, so in the end… maybe this is not all that good for them to begin with. Why is it wrong for the NCAA to set eligibility rules? Is the next step allowing players with failing grades to play? Who needs to go to class, anyway?
I don’t know. Hate to change the subject, but it’s just depressing to see all of this as a fan.
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Post by brandon on Dec 16, 2023 14:27:05 GMT -6
The Dakota teams and the top of the Big Sky just seem to be in another league from the rest of FCS. Let’s be honest, most of those teams would be very competitive at the G5 level of FBS. I might even take SDSU against Liberty. I hope that we can get to that level eventually, but I don’t know. It won’t be easy. Money helps. Most of the top FCS schools have football budgets that are double or triple what UNA spends. SFA certainly didn’t do well last season but are an established FCS program. Can UNA really thrive when they spend so much less? Gotta figure that out. From 2021-22: (Football Budgets) Montana St- $8.43M Montana - $6.59M NDSU - $6.14M SFA - $5.82M UND - $5.39M ACU - $5.35M Big Sky - 5 more teams above $5M SDSU - $4.74M MVFC - 6 more teams above $4M UAC - 3 more teams above $4M UNA - $2.8M You are right, but it's also more complicated than that. You have to ask why a certain schools football budget it where it is. How many flights do you have to take on average in your conference yearly? What's the travel cost associated with recruiting in your region? The reason I bring that up, I have visited a few of those schools that have considerable more football budgets, and at this point, I can't see that big of a difference? Some have a nicer stadium, or a stadium...lol Some pay the coaches more, some don't. (And you have to factor cost of living) My point is, when you actually factor in everything, are their budget really that much higher? Some, sure... but it may be closer than how it appears. With that said, how far can UNA be if they double that 2.8? The thing I respect is, if we raise one sport 1% for example, UNA usually does it across the board unless there is a major disparity in one sport. Other schools, will usually put more in one sport.
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Post by brandon on Dec 16, 2023 14:31:57 GMT -6
Money is absolutely important. To that point, I just saw that the Colorado State coach was upset because his “top 12 players” have all been offered by other schools. Combine that with this week’s rulings that the NCAA can’t make players sit out on their second transfer, and I just… I don’t know where this is all going. I understand it’s “good” for the players to have freedom to play where they want. But if we continue on the path we’re on, I fear the entire sport will collapse from fans just absolutely giving up on it. And at that point the players won’t be making ANY money, so in the end… maybe this is not all that good for them to begin with. Why is it wrong for the NCAA to set eligibility rules? Is the next step allowing players with failing grades to play? Who needs to go to class, anyway? I don’t know. Hate to change the subject, but it’s just depressing to see all of this as a fan. My old man used to tell me, "Don't worry about things you can't change. They work themselves out." It may get worse before it gets better. But it can't stay like it is currently. In my opinion, it needs to happen so the ones that think this is a good idea can be humbled when it backfires on them.
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Post by unalions on Dec 16, 2023 17:22:59 GMT -6
Money helps. Most of the top FCS schools have football budgets that are double or triple what UNA spends. SFA certainly didn’t do well last season but are an established FCS program. Can UNA really thrive when they spend so much less? Gotta figure that out. From 2021-22: (Football Budgets) Montana St- $8.43M Montana - $6.59M NDSU - $6.14M SFA - $5.82M UND - $5.39M ACU - $5.35M Big Sky - 5 more teams above $5M SDSU - $4.74M MVFC - 6 more teams above $4M UAC - 3 more teams above $4M UNA - $2.8M You are right, but it's also more complicated than that. You have to ask why a certain schools football budget it where it is. How many flights do you have to take on average in your conference yearly? What's the travel cost associated with recruiting in your region? The reason I bring that up, I have visited a few of those schools that have considerable more football budgets, and at this point, I can't see that big of a difference? Some have a nicer stadium, or a stadium...lol Some pay the coaches more, some don't. (And you have to factor cost of living) My point is, when you actually factor in everything, are their budget really that much higher? Some, sure... but it may be closer than how it appears. With that said, how far can UNA be if they double that 2.8? The thing I respect is, if we raise one sport 1% for example, UNA usually does it across the board unless there is a major disparity in one sport. Other schools, will usually put more in one sport. The big difference with most of those schools is they win. But I get what you’re saying. UNA has a lot going for it and this stadium project is gonna be a huge component of continuing to raise this program as a whole, not just in football.
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Post by unalions on Dec 16, 2023 18:57:21 GMT -6
Great semi game at Montana. The Griz beat NDSU in 2OT. I remember when the Lions played there a few years back. And in Fargo.
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Post by roaringsince96 on Dec 16, 2023 21:01:03 GMT -6
Great semi game at Montana. The Griz beat NDSU in 2OT. I remember when the Lions played there a few years back. And in Fargo. Would like to get one of the top FCS teams to come here. Maybe once we have a nicer stadium we can invite some of those type teams for a play in play. Crazy typically in the southeast is where you find the best football. Really not the case in FCS at the moment, look at the best the last few years. Think some of the Texas teams can help change that dynamic. Is UNA and UTC ready to make that leap? Cool side note. The stadium at Montana holds 25,000. Today the attendance was 26,544. Would love to see UNA in 2026 pack out the new stadium with 15,000 real UNA fans.
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